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Old 08-26-21, 08:48 PM   #1
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Nuke Nuclear Iran

Iran is two months away from nuclear bomb

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/ga...ar-bomb-677672

IDF ramps up plans for strike on Iran’s nuke program

Military, defense minister believe a credible threat of an Israeli attack on Tehran’s nuclear facilities is only way US will be able to negotiate better deal with Islamic Republic

https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-ben...-nuke-program/

Iran had already been producing uranium enriched to just under 20 per cent (around 19.5 per cent) following a decision in December 2020, a deliberate step away from compliance with the JCPOA's terms. Enrichment to 60 per cent, however, is a significant escalation in enrichment operations.

https://www.sipri.org/commentary/ess...riched-uranium
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Biden's Iran envoy calls nuclear deal's fate 'one big question mark'

ROBERT MALLEY, the man President JOE BIDEN has tasked with putting the United States back into the Iran nuclear deal, isn’t supremely confident he’ll succeed in his mission.

“It’s just one big question mark,” he told NatSec Daily during an exclusive interview in his State Department office. Rejoining the multinational accord “is not something that we can fully control,” he said, citing a lack of engagement from the Iranians.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters...on-mark-494049
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Thank you Arlo for your astute contribution to conversation.
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This round will be won by the Europeans. They always acted to illustrate how much they desire a nuclear armed Iran, and that is what they will get.

Once reality, they will be the first stressing that now one has to be pragmatic and that one has to talk and do precious profitable deals and that the embargo is useless now. Untie the trade! Change by trade!
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Hezbollah is trying to get Iranian oil shipped to Lebanon which is in really bad situation with no fuel.

Hezbollah arranges Iranian fuel for Lebanon
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ys-2021-08-19/

Iranian tanker headed to Lebanon has not left yet
An Iranian tanker with fuel for Lebanon had not yet left Iran as of Wednesday, but is expected to leave by Friday, according to TankerTrackers.com, which announced the delay on Twitter.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/ir...er-left-677738
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This round will be won by the Europeans. They always acted to illustrate how much they desire a nuclear armed Iran, and that is what they will get.

Once reality, they will be the first stressing that now one has to be pragmatic and that one has to talk and do precious profitable deals and that the embargo is useless now. Untie the trade! Change by trade!
Yes I see what you mean now

The E3/EU could make substantial investments in the teetering Instex trade channel to boost trade with Iran. It is in Europe’s direct interest to have open trade with Iran and would show Iran that no matter what the United States does, if Iran abides by the agreement, they will have an economic partnership with the E3/EU. In the next weeks and months, the fate of the JCPOA will largely be in Europe’s hands as it seeks to revive and maintain a tenuous relationship between the U.S. and Iran.
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It's not only Israel and USA who want Iran becoming a country with nuclear. There are other country in their surroundings who would clap they hands if Israel and or USA attack Iran.

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From my memory
Turkey, Egypt and Saudi-Arabia is some of the countries who wouldn't see Iran having nukes.

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From the first article I posted, yes it is Israeli biased

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Israeli Defense Minister Gantz

At present, the “Iranian threat is land-based,” with Tehran operating “via its proxies in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and Gaza,”

With regard to Iran’s aerial threat, Gantz said that “Iran is employing UAVs and guided missiles. It is maritime: disrupting international trade. Iran also works in cyberspace.”

Iran’s capacity for conventional violence is increasing, pointing out that Tehran has more than doubled its military investment over the last five years from $22 billion to $49b.

“All of Iran’s acts of aggression this far have been conducted without nuclear capabilities. Imagine what would happen if Iran achieves nuclear capabilities?”
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Are unknown to their mentality, so I can't say if Iran would make use of their nukes when they get them. They know very well that if they use it against Israel, they would be bombed back to stone age.

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Are unknown to their mentality, so I can't say if Iran would make use of their nukes when they get them. They know very well that if they use it against Israel, they would be bombed back to stone age.

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Yes I think the Israelis have not concealed the constant deployment of one of their subs through Suez to the Red Sea so the Iranians know Israel has a nuclear option against them.



Iranian state media claims Israeli submarine passed through Suez into Red Sea

https://www.timesofisrael.com/irania...-into-red-sea/
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^ From what I read about this sub, it has only torpedoes and CM onboard. No VLS system. Do Israel have torpedoes with nukes ?
Then there's these two destroyer who came together with the sub.
Don't know what type it is and what type of weapon they have

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