Religious Views

Rose · 10-12-06, 05:28 PM

Post your religious views if you feel comfortable.

My dad is Jewish (Hence my forum name "Rose," from my real last name, Rosenfield) and my mother is Irish Roman Catholic. While I am half and half, I am much more Catholic in practice. I'm not as devout as I'd like to be... I rarely go to Church (I go a few times a year: Christmas, Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, and of course, Easter along with the rare Sunday in between), and have not been confirmed (I'm 15, is that too late?), although I have been Baptized and made my First Confession and Communion.

Tchocky · 10-12-06, 05:38 PM

Raised Catholic, more by social norms than anything else. I'd call myself atheist, possible antitheist because I don't believe in unnecessary divisions.

Religion leaves me alone, so I leave religion alone. We work out fine

Yahoshua · 10-12-06, 06:06 PM

I'll sit on the sidelines and watch other people go through this exercise (tired fingers/ fried mind).

Skybird · 10-12-06, 06:12 PM

And I execute my war plan A and make use of a previously prepared "shortcut"

http://people.freenet.de/Skybird/Whatitsabout.pdf

MothBalls · 10-12-06, 07:10 PM

http://www.americanhumanist.org/humanism/

Quote:

Humanist Manifesto III

Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without supernaturalism, affirms our ability and responsibility to lead ethical lives of personal fulfillment that aspire to the greater good of humanity. [...]

My addition:
Everone has the right to believe in whatever god they choose, worship unhindered in any manner they choose, and should not be thought any less of, or more of, based on thier beliefs. We should be able to respect that right, in peace.

TteFAboB · 10-12-06, 07:13 PM

Roman Catholic Papist.

August · 10-12-06, 07:35 PM

Anti-religious believer in God.

Ducimus · 10-12-06, 07:49 PM

Im pretty much anti religous in terms of having beleifs forced upon me. I beleive that everyone is free to beleive what they want and should respect others right to do the same.

Growing up as a kid i had christian doctrine and church ram rodded down my throat, and was dragged to chuch kicking and screaming. Now, as an adult, i can't stand the site of any of it. I intend to go to church only twice more in my life. My marriage and my funerial. Open display of christian rehtoric like Harvest bumper stickers, NOTW, jesus this that or the other thing, makes me irrate.

If i ever have a kid, i will not allow dogma to be ramrodded down his/her' throat like it was mine. He or she will make her own decision and i will respect it. Such curtisey was never afforded to me.

_Seth_ · 10-12-06, 07:56 PM

Humanist; Always!

madDdog67 · 10-12-06, 09:26 PM

Raised Catholic, given the 7/8 Irish in my family tree, but once I got to be old enough to make the choice of going to church or not, well, if you're not gettin' married or buried, you won't see me in one lol. Don't really think to much about being Catholic, except when I'm in a small part of a wee island where that stuff makes a difference...ni shiochain go soairse.

I dabbled for a while in neo-pagan/Druid/Wicca, but there's *way* too many hippies in that to suit me.

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I'm at the point in life that I acknowledge the existence of a higher power, but whatever form he/she/it takes, beats the hell out of me.

I don't begrudge anyone worshipping whoever they want, I ask only 2 things:

1)don't try to ram it down MY throat
2)don't even THINK about killing me in the name of your God.

Other than that, I try to leave people to their beliefs.

Tchocky · 10-12-06, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madDdog67

Raised Catholic, given the 7/8 Irish in my family tree, but once I got to be old enough to make the choice of going to church or not, well, if you're not gettin' married or buried, you won't see me in one lol. Don't really think to much about being Catholic, except when I'm in a small part of a wee island where that stuff makes a difference...ni shiochain go soairse.

Tá an ceart agat, Madra Mire Seasca 's a seacht! Ach, a lá atá inniu ann, níl sé ró-tábhachtach san Tuaisceart.

Rose · 10-12-06, 09:58 PM

Tiocfaidh ár lá, my friend! Soarse go Deo! 26 + 6 = 1! I fully support Sinn Fein and their goals. Wait, I'm hijacking my own thread, aren't I... I'm just proud to be Irish-American and disgusted by the fact that the Brits have shat all over Ireland for 850 some-odd years. Get the hell out of the 6 occupied counties.

Tchocky · 10-12-06, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose

Tiocfaidh ár lá, my friend! Soarse go Deo! 26 + 6 = 1! I fully support Sinn Fein and their goals. Wait, I'm hijacking my own thread, aren't I... I'm just proud to be Irish-American and disgusted at the fact that the Brits have shat all over Ireland for 850 some-odd years. Get the hell out of the 6 occupied counties.

I'm disgusted by all of those in the North who decide that killing each other is the way to further their aims.
I'm disgusted by those who believe violence is the route to a United Ireland, despite a significant majority in the North do not want this.
I'm disgusted by arms-length financing of murder and mutilation.
I'm disgusted by Sinn Fein members refusing to call the disappearance, murder, and hidden burial of an innocent mother of ten a crime.
I'm disgusted by those who kneecap others purely on basis of religion.
I'm disgusted by those who perpetuate hatred because of historical injustice, hundreds of years in the past.
I'm disgusted that my best friends father decided that it was in the interests of the irish people to kill 29 innocents.
I'm disgusted by the Irish people for electing known criminals.
I am disgusted by people who believe a country is worth killing innocent people for.

Rose · 10-12-06, 10:27 PM

*Gulp* ... Let me try to make things a bit more clear. I fully support the cause of Sinn Fein. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE MEANS BY WHICH THAT CAUSE IS PREACHED AND CARRIED OUT. I don't care who you are, where you're from, Protestant, Catholic -- The terrorism must stop. I fully agree with you. Innocents do not need to die over such a fight. Whether it's the PIRA, Loyalist paramilitaries, the RAC, the British Army... They've all had their share of atrocities during the current times and the "Troubles." The killing must stop. The death must stop. That's where Sinn Fein come in. The PIRA are letting up on the bloodshed, and Sinn Fein is carrying out the cause through political, non-violent means. I just think it would be wonderful to see Ireland free. However, no terrorism is good, and I fully agree with Tchocky on that fact... Supporting the IRA or any sectarian paramilitary for that matter, is just as bad as supporting Al Quaida or Hezbollah.

Oh, and by the way, I'm sure the nationalists have much more to be angry over than just old grievences. For example, the RAC firing into a crowd of peaceful NICRA protestors who simple wanted to enjoy the same rights as their British fellows. Wasn't so long ago, was it....

Coda · 10-12-06, 10:57 PM

This is why..... the orginal topic.... is usually not a good idea for a forum post. It will soon become a flame war. Best to lock it now.

10-12-06, 05:28 PM	#1
Rose Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 966 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Religious Views Post your religious views if you feel comfortable. My dad is Jewish (Hence my forum name "Rose," from my real last name, Rosenfield) and my mother is Irish Roman Catholic. While I am half and half, I am much more Catholic in practice. I'm not as devout as I'd like to be... I rarely go to Church (I go a few times a year: Christmas, Maundy Thursday, Good Friday, and of course, Easter along with the rare Sunday in between), and have not been confirmed (I'm 15, is that too late?), although I have been Baptized and made my First Confession and Communion.

10-12-06, 05:38 PM	#2
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Raised Catholic, more by social norms than anything else. I'd call myself atheist, possible antitheist because I don't believe in unnecessary divisions. Religion leaves me alone, so I leave religion alone. We work out fine __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

10-12-06, 06:06 PM	#3
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'll sit on the sidelines and watch other people go through this exercise (tired fingers/ fried mind). __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

10-12-06, 06:12 PM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,603 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	And I execute my war plan A and make use of a previously prepared "shortcut" http://people.freenet.de/Skybird/Whatitsabout.pdf __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 10-12-06 at 06:27 PM.

10-12-06, 07:13 PM	#6
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Roman Catholic Papist. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

10-12-06, 07:35 PM	#7
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Anti-religious believer in God. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

10-12-06, 07:49 PM	#8
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Im pretty much anti religous in terms of having beleifs forced upon me. I beleive that everyone is free to beleive what they want and should respect others right to do the same. Growing up as a kid i had christian doctrine and church ram rodded down my throat, and was dragged to chuch kicking and screaming. Now, as an adult, i can't stand the site of any of it. I intend to go to church only twice more in my life. My marriage and my funerial. Open display of christian rehtoric like Harvest bumper stickers, NOTW, jesus this that or the other thing, makes me irrate. If i ever have a kid, i will not allow dogma to be ramrodded down his/her' throat like it was mine. He or she will make her own decision and i will respect it. Such curtisey was never afforded to me.

10-12-06, 07:56 PM	#9
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Humanist; Always! __________________

10-12-06, 09:26 PM	#10
madDdog67 Loader Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: VA, USA Posts: 84 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Raised Catholic, given the 7/8 Irish in my family tree, but once I got to be old enough to make the choice of going to church or not, well, if you're not gettin' married or buried, you won't see me in one lol. Don't really think to much about being Catholic, except when I'm in a small part of a wee island where that stuff makes a difference...ni shiochain go soairse. I dabbled for a while in neo-pagan/Druid/Wicca, but there's way too many hippies in that to suit me. . I'm at the point in life that I acknowledge the existence of a higher power, but whatever form he/she/it takes, beats the hell out of me. I don't begrudge anyone worshipping whoever they want, I ask only 2 things: 1)don't try to ram it down MY throat 2)don't even THINK about killing me in the name of your God. Other than that, I try to leave people to their beliefs.

10-12-06, 09:58 PM	#12
Rose Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 966 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Tiocfaidh ár lá, my friend! Soarse go Deo! 26 + 6 = 1! I fully support Sinn Fein and their goals. Wait, I'm hijacking my own thread, aren't I... I'm just proud to be Irish-American and disgusted by the fact that the Brits have shat all over Ireland for 850 some-odd years. Get the hell out of the 6 occupied counties. Last edited by Rose; 10-12-06 at 10:01 PM.

10-12-06, 10:27 PM	#14
Rose Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 966 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Gulp ... Let me try to make things a bit more clear. I fully support the cause of Sinn Fein. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE MEANS BY WHICH THAT CAUSE IS PREACHED AND CARRIED OUT. I don't care who you are, where you're from, Protestant, Catholic -- The terrorism must stop. I fully agree with you. Innocents do not need to die over such a fight. Whether it's the PIRA, Loyalist paramilitaries, the RAC, the British Army... They've all had their share of atrocities during the current times and the "Troubles." The killing must stop. The death must stop. That's where Sinn Fein come in. The PIRA are letting up on the bloodshed, and Sinn Fein is carrying out the cause through political, non-violent means. I just think it would be wonderful to see Ireland free. However, no terrorism is good, and I fully agree with Tchocky on that fact... Supporting the IRA or any sectarian paramilitary for that matter, is just as bad as supporting Al Quaida or Hezbollah. Oh, and by the way, I'm sure the nationalists have much more to be angry over than just old grievences. For example, the RAC firing into a crowd of peaceful NICRA protestors who simple wanted to enjoy the same rights as their British fellows. Wasn't so long ago, was it.... Last edited by Rose; 10-12-06 at 10:43 PM.

10-12-06, 10:57 PM	#15
Coda Medic Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 159 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is why..... the orginal topic.... is usually not a good idea for a forum post. It will soon become a flame war. Best to lock it now.

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