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Old 09-04-06, 11:10 PM   #1
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Why is it still not legal worldwide? What harm does it do? What is the big problem with it?
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Old 09-05-06, 12:10 AM   #2
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It's called abuse......but hey, since ppl will get it from mexico already, why don't we continue our charade in the war on drugs and let things be.

We'll continue to have turf wars, gang battles, and a rising problem with MS-13.

If we make it legal, we condone it.

So why don't we do something better. Like militarize our southern border, kick out mexican citizens who are here illegally, and then lay down about 1.5 million landmines in a swath of land a mile wide and call it a day.

Anyone who makes it across alive without using any equipment to detect the mines will get automatic citizenship.
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Old 09-05-06, 12:17 AM   #3
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Legal yes but their must be laws still bind to it.

For own use only, no growing and selling to make a profit. At the moment Dealers are laughing all the way to the bank thanks to the laws. No selling in shops in packets like tobbacco. Just the permission to grow your own and a limit of 3 plants per havest. No smoking/eating of cannibis in public do the Amsterdam thing and have cafes just for this. Restricted age before you can use it. If carefully controlled ppl wont even notice, if abused then it will fail.
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Old 09-05-06, 04:53 AM   #4
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When i stay at my girl friends the guy down stairs is smoking it constantly it comes through the floor bords and make us feel sick, i dont mind the person smoking it but just as long as he / she doesnt get me high as a kite in the process.
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i can vouch for the fact that for the unlucky few it is anything but harmless...it may take a few years for the negative effects to accumalate but accumalate they do...our mental hospitals are where you will find the unlucky ones
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our mental hospitals are where you will find the unlucky ones
So that's where Cheech and Chong have disapeared to.
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Old 09-05-06, 05:58 AM   #7
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i can vouch for the fact that for the unlucky few it is anything but harmless...it may take a few years for the negative effects to accumalate but accumalate they do...our mental hospitals are where you will find the unlucky ones
Same goes with alcohol
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As it goes i think i should be thankful to the jamican downstairs who smokes weed non stop cause i seem to get more in the bedroom department if he is smoking the stuff then when he is away.

so thats one good thing
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i can vouch for the fact that for the unlucky few it is anything but harmless...it may take a few years for the negative effects to accumalate but accumalate they do...our mental hospitals are where you will find the unlucky ones
Same goes with alcohol
i didn't say they're were no positive aspects to cannabis...

lets face it as it stands right now if by some magic wand you could replace alcohol with cannabis without any one noticing...then i doubt that the police would need to declare "martial law" every weekend evening and night in our local town centres (UK) just to maintain some semblance of order..

life isn't black and white
in fact even black and white isn't black and white...
people are basicaly stupid by nature..and will do what ever the guy next to them is doing if it appears to be the done thing..(and gets them laid lol)

it's mess.....do you realise that under some circumstances the laws against smoking tobbaco are now far more severe than those against smoking cannabis lol....no point trying to look for sense in any of it...and expecting the government to come up with a rational policy on the subject is a complete waste of time..

governments have spent years encouraging knee jerk reactions to issues..with spin political correctness and endless other advertising gimmicks...the result is that the general population is now incapable of making thougthfull decisions about anything at all..
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i can vouch for the fact that for the unlucky few it is anything but harmless...it may take a few years for the negative effects to accumalate but accumalate they do...our mental hospitals are where you will find the unlucky ones
Same goes with alcohol
Hey, leave my beer alone.
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In an ideal world, no.

In the real world where drug trafficking is a political tool, yes. Since this thing can grow anywhere the consequent Dumping will make it commercially inviable for traffickers. Follow Kiwi's guidelines and add a smell-complaint, just like you have sound limits. The odor from the next door neighbor is invading your house? Call the police and get him fined.

I don't believe this should be excluded anyway:
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Like militarize our southern border, kick out mexican citizens who are here illegally, and then lay down about 1.5 million landmines in a swath of land a mile wide and call it a day.
While many believe the easier access will affect society, we are all doomed to the New World Order and a Global Dictatorship anyway unless people can start adding 2+2. Cannabis importance to drug traffickers shouldn't be underestimated. When all they have left is cocaine & friends, the international picture will become much clearer.
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What harm does it do? What is the big problem with it?
Marajuana causes impaired concentration, elevated blood pressure, increase heart rate, a false sense of euphoria, and altered perception of time. Its pulmonary effects can be estimated at about 4Xs the lung damage of cigarettes.

As far as the history of how it became outlawed, iirc sometimes the History Channel shows a 1hr documentary about the history and why it became outlawed. I've been meaning to find the time to watch it myself seems like it would be a interesting watch if lucky enough to catch it in reruns sometime.
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Marajuana causes impaired concentration, elevated blood pressure, increase heart rate, a false sense of euphoria, and altered perception of time. Its pulmonary effects can be estimated at about 4Xs the lung damage of cigarettes.

As far as the history of how it became outlawed, iirc sometimes the History Channel shows a 1hr documentary about the history and why it became outlawed. I've been meaning to find the time to watch it myself seems like it would be a interesting watch if lucky enough to catch it in reruns sometime.
And alcohol causes liver disease, has a real risk of chemical dependency, and is the cause of millions of car accidents, many fatal. And concerning the pulmonary effects of marijuana, nobody really knows. Claiming otherwise is just what you want to believe. You can find studies that declare it worse than cigarettes, but you can just as easily find studies that say it isn't as bad as cigarettes. But still, cigarettes and cigars are perfectly legal sooo...

As to the legality of marijuana and the history of it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalit..._United_States
It's hard to find articles that aren't blatantly biased one way or the other concerning the legal history of marijuana. So Google away, just try an recognize biases when reading through. Either way, it's obvious that if the government applied the same standards to marijuana as it does to alcohol and tobacco; both of these would be illegal.

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I've never smoked anything. I do, however, enjoy the occassional alcoholic drink and in a minimal amount. I do not personally know anyone who has an alcohol abuse problem.

On the other hand, I know lots of people who smoke and none of them do it occassionally.

Would that be a correct assessment?

If so, would that also be true of marijuanna smokers?
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