Madonna and her crucifixion display.

XabbaRus · 09-09-06, 04:08 AM

I have been seeing this story pop up every time Madonna plays a concert. The latest being a Dutch priest making a fake bomb threat to get the concert cancelled.

Now I'm not what you could call religious though nominally a Christian I have a few of my own ideas. However I actually agree with the condemnation of Madonna. I believe that there are certain things that should be respected and this is one of them. I can't see what point Madonna is trying to make, nothing political for sure. Personally I wish someone would crucify her as I'm getting fed up with the crap she spouts.

Anyway what do people here think. In short I think it is in bad taste, it is purely for show.

Perilscope · 09-09-06, 04:44 AM

Me, I am Atheist, so anything to do with religion I do not care.
However, I would not insult anybody and in anyway in regards to his religion.

Now if I condemn Madonna's action, I do not know, as I did not see what exactly she does with the crucifixion. But if I was her, I would leave that "marketing method" for a moment, she's never going to sell me a ticket for sure anyway.

Joe Satriani is the only music for me

Skybird · 09-09-06, 05:25 AM

No. Let bad taste speak for itself. If we ban this, we have no grounds to resist to Muhammedan demands to limit freedom of press - then we must ban Muhammad cartoons as well. Legal laws cannot replace a detoriation of values and manners. The latter is a question of education, and someone's goals in life. If your only goal is money, then mindless performances like this are the result. Heal it by boosting up cultural life again, bring it back to a higher niveau. Don'T try to replace lacking arts and culture with police regulation - the mental vacuum will remain nevertheless. BTW, Western societies will survive her show, and very easily so.

STEED · 09-09-06, 05:32 AM

Madonna = Bad taste

She is so boring.

kiwi_2005 · 09-09-06, 08:42 AM

"Like a virgin, touch for the very first time... like a virrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgin....ZZZZT

I soooo hated that song! lol

Sailor Steve · 09-09-06, 11:24 AM

No, I don't like Madonna. No, her silliness should not be banned. Free speech is free speech, and if it's not actual obscenity on stage, there shouldn't be a problem.

The Avon Lady · 09-09-06, 12:58 PM

Ban? No.

Admit to her lousy music and vile taste in virtually everything she touches? Sure!

tycho102 · 09-09-06, 02:21 PM

I have no problem drawing "moral lines" between Christianity and islam. I have no compunctions against banning anti-Christian displays, and allowing anti-islamic displays. They do the exact same thing with us, so by Allah, I say level the playing field. Use taqiyya against their taqiyya.

However, Madonna is just a freak (I mean that socially, as well as sexually [*whew* she's a freak]).

Isn't Boy George and David Hasslehoff still popular in Europe? Poor taste does not necessarily warrant a bazooka. Just ostracize her like we've done over here, and move onto another freak. Lord knows there's plenty of them. Last I heard, Michael Jackson was roaming around that part of the world. With Madonna, you just have to protect your pets, but with Michael, you've got to protect your kids.

TteFAboB · 09-09-06, 03:33 PM

It seems none of you have seen it, but after her moment of glory in this scene, people dressed with the David's Star and the Islamic Crescent enter the stage and start dancing together, while images of war, disaster and poverty are displayed in a large screen behind her. From the back-stage feature on the DVD (don't ask) I understood the idea is that Christianity is an evil religion responsable for the images behind her and for preventing Jews and Muslims from living together. Avon Lady, Konovalov, I'm so sorry!

Any Catholic Priest who gets involved with this mundanity should be immediately prosecuted by the Vatican for blasphemy and condemned to a 2 year refreshment course in an isolated Monastery. If he refuses to comply, he's excommunicated latae sententia for Heresy. How dare he lower the Church to Madonna's lower[est] ground?

I voted no. She and her show should be completely ignored except when seeking a bad example.

jumpy · 09-09-06, 05:52 PM

Xabba, can you add another option to you poll?
- Don't care about a gap-toothed old hag whos overinflated sense of her own self importance has obviously caused her to loose the plot.

Onkel Neal · 09-09-06, 05:57 PM

I miss the days when we could throw rotten lettuce and tomatoes at aging, desperate-for-attention pop stars....

jumpy · 09-09-06, 06:00 PM

Who needs rotten fruit & veg when you have Paris Hilton? :rotfl:

Konovalov · 09-09-06, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Avon Lady, Konovalov, I'm so sorry!

Apology accepted Captain Needa, uh I mean TteFAboB.

Sorry but I've been watching too much Star Wars the last couple of days and just couldn't resist.

Subnuts · 09-09-06, 06:25 PM

Moral of the story:

If you're a famous singer, and want to be respected twenty years after your first hit, don't base your entire career around being a slutty pop-tart.

Yahoshua · 09-09-06, 07:09 PM

Madonna is just looking for fame that was body-bagged about 20 years ago.

She isn't going to get much more popular over here. Besides, I often enjoy watching people make idiots of themselves.

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09-09-06, 04:08 AM	#1
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Madonna and her crucifixion display. I have been seeing this story pop up every time Madonna plays a concert. The latest being a Dutch priest making a fake bomb threat to get the concert cancelled. Now I'm not what you could call religious though nominally a Christian I have a few of my own ideas. However I actually agree with the condemnation of Madonna. I believe that there are certain things that should be respected and this is one of them. I can't see what point Madonna is trying to make, nothing political for sure. Personally I wish someone would crucify her as I'm getting fed up with the crap she spouts. Anyway what do people here think. In short I think it is in bad taste, it is purely for show. __________________

09-09-06, 05:25 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,618 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	No. Let bad taste speak for itself. If we ban this, we have no grounds to resist to Muhammedan demands to limit freedom of press - then we must ban Muhammad cartoons as well. Legal laws cannot replace a detoriation of values and manners. The latter is a question of education, and someone's goals in life. If your only goal is money, then mindless performances like this are the result. Heal it by boosting up cultural life again, bring it back to a higher niveau. Don'T try to replace lacking arts and culture with police regulation - the mental vacuum will remain nevertheless. BTW, Western societies will survive her show, and very easily so. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 09-09-06 at 05:28 AM.

09-09-06, 05:32 AM	#4
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Madonna = Bad taste She is so boring. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-09-06, 08:42 AM	#5
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	"Like a virgin, touch for the very first time... like a virrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgin....ZZZZT I soooo hated that song! lol __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

09-09-06, 04:44 AM	#2
Perilscope Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montréal Posts: 399 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Me, I am Atheist, so anything to do with religion I do not care. However, I would not insult anybody and in anyway in regards to his religion. Now if I condemn Madonna's action, I do not know, as I did not see what exactly she does with the crucifixion. But if I was her, I would leave that "marketing method" for a moment, she's never going to sell me a ticket for sure anyway. Joe Satriani is the only music for me

09-09-06, 11:24 AM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	No, I don't like Madonna. No, her silliness should not be banned. Free speech is free speech, and if it's not actual obscenity on stage, there shouldn't be a problem. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-09-06, 12:58 PM	#7
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ban? No. Admit to her lousy music and vile taste in virtually everything she touches? Sure! __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

09-09-06, 02:21 PM	#8
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have no problem drawing "moral lines" between Christianity and islam. I have no compunctions against banning anti-Christian displays, and allowing anti-islamic displays. They do the exact same thing with us, so by Allah, I say level the playing field. Use taqiyya against their taqiyya. However, Madonna is just a freak (I mean that socially, as well as sexually [whew she's a freak]). Isn't Boy George and David Hasslehoff still popular in Europe? Poor taste does not necessarily warrant a bazooka. Just ostracize her like we've done over here, and move onto another freak. Lord knows there's plenty of them. Last I heard, Michael Jackson was roaming around that part of the world. With Madonna, you just have to protect your pets, but with Michael, you've got to protect your kids. __________________ My little Silent Hunter 4 repository

09-09-06, 03:33 PM	#9
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	It seems none of you have seen it, but after her moment of glory in this scene, people dressed with the David's Star and the Islamic Crescent enter the stage and start dancing together, while images of war, disaster and poverty are displayed in a large screen behind her. From the back-stage feature on the DVD (don't ask) I understood the idea is that Christianity is an evil religion responsable for the images behind her and for preventing Jews and Muslims from living together. Avon Lady, Konovalov, I'm so sorry! Any Catholic Priest who gets involved with this mundanity should be immediately prosecuted by the Vatican for blasphemy and condemned to a 2 year refreshment course in an isolated Monastery. If he refuses to comply, he's excommunicated latae sententia for Heresy. How dare he lower the Church to Madonna's lower[est] ground? I voted no. She and her show should be completely ignored except when seeking a bad example. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand Last edited by TteFAboB; 09-09-06 at 03:35 PM.

09-09-06, 05:52 PM	#10
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Xabba, can you add another option to you poll? - Don't care about a gap-toothed old hag whos overinflated sense of her own self importance has obviously caused her to loose the plot. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

09-09-06, 05:57 PM	#11
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I miss the days when we could throw rotten lettuce and tomatoes at aging, desperate-for-attention pop stars....

09-09-06, 06:00 PM	#12
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Who needs rotten fruit & veg when you have Paris Hilton? :rotfl: __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

09-09-06, 06:25 PM	#14
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Moral of the story: If you're a famous singer, and want to be respected twenty years after your first hit, don't base your entire career around being a slutty pop-tart. __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

09-09-06, 07:09 PM	#15
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Madonna is just looking for fame that was body-bagged about 20 years ago. She isn't going to get much more popular over here. Besides, I often enjoy watching people make idiots of themselves. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

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