SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter III
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-31-06, 05:37 AM   #1
Captain Nemo
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: London, England
Posts: 1,144
Downloads: 54
Uploads: 0
Default Deleting multiple installations of SHIII

I have a couple of installations of SHIII with different mods on. My primary installation (in the default SHIII folder) has GW1.1a on it and my other installation under a different folder name has other mods. I now want to delete the installation with the other mods on as I don't use it anymore and it is just taking up hard disk space. Is it just a case of deleting the folder that contains the version of SHIII with the other mods on or will that have some bad effect on the SHIII installation generally? Any help appreciated.

Nemo
Captain Nemo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-06, 05:50 AM   #2
HunterICX
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Malaga, España
Posts: 10,750
Downloads: 8
Uploads: 0


Default

I'll say No

Deleting will not cause any mess ups.
because it are different folders seperated they have no connection to eachother what so ever.

Good luck
__________________
HunterICX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-06, 06:53 AM   #3
enaceo
XO
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 401
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0
Default

From what I have experienced,using dual or more installs with different mods and SH3 commander can mix the game files up a little bit.But if that happens,and after deleting the secondary folder your GW1.1 has some problems,just installing it again will solve them.But these problems rarely happen so there's not so much to worry about.
__________________
Came back after a long time ...ahoy mates!
enaceo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-06, 07:11 AM   #4
JScones
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,501
Downloads: 19
Uploads: 0
Default

@ Captain Nemo: Delete away, but if you are running SH3Cmdr, rollback first.

@ enaceo: There's two ways to totally ensure that SH3Cmdr does not "cross pollenate" your SH3 installs:

1. Get into the habit of always running SH3Cmdr and performing a rollback immediately AFTER you have exited SH3;
2. Create multiple SH3Cmdr installations and use the /l: switch with each one to point to each different installation.

The second solution will ensure no cross pollenation, but the down side is duplicate installations of SH3Cmdr. However, if you don't trust yourself with the first solution, this is the way to go.

Personally, the first thing I do whenever I exit SH3 is rollback SH3Cmdr. Thus I've never had any problems.
JScones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-06, 07:23 AM   #5
Captain Nemo
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: London, England
Posts: 1,144
Downloads: 54
Uploads: 0
Default

Thanks for the replies I'll do as suggested.

Nemo
Captain Nemo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-06, 10:54 AM   #6
enaceo
XO
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 401
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JScones
@ Captain Nemo: Delete away, but if you are running SH3Cmdr, rollback first.

@ enaceo: There's two ways to totally ensure that SH3Cmdr does not "cross pollenate" your SH3 installs:

1. Get into the habit of always running SH3Cmdr and performing a rollback immediately AFTER you have exited SH3;
2. Create multiple SH3Cmdr installations and use the /l: switch with each one to point to each different installation.

The second solution will ensure no cross pollenation, but the down side is duplicate installations of SH3Cmdr. However, if you don't trust yourself with the first solution, this is the way to go.

Personally, the first thing I do whenever I exit SH3 is rollback SH3Cmdr. Thus I've never had any problems.
I've never actually considered using dual commanders,but thanks for the info.I'll try and see what happens.As for using the first option,I always rollback before playing NYGM or GW or my other installs,but sometimes the games get mixed up with no apparent reason( for example ,in GW the "intiliazing " is replaced with "Not so long ago" and sometimes this also happens in NYGM and the other games,but it might be something else causing it).
But,is there any ...problem with having 2 sh3 commanders?For example,if I want to have a W@w career with NYGm and another career with GW ,will using a separate commander cause any problems?
__________________
Came back after a long time ...ahoy mates!
enaceo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-06, 11:03 AM   #7
JScones
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,501
Downloads: 19
Uploads: 0
Default

No, you've got to rollback immediately AFTER you exit SH3. Otherwise, this is what happens:

1. You rename SH3 - GW to be your primary SH3
2. You run SH3Cmdr which rolls back and then loads files into this installation of SH3
3. You exit SH3
4. You rename this SH3 installation back to SH3 - GW then rename SH3 - NYGM to be your primary SH3
5. You run SH3Cmdr which rolls back into this installation of SH3 the files that it backed up last time and then loads new files

See what's happened? The files SH3Cmdr backed up when you ran SH3 (- GW) have now been restored into SH3 (- NYGM).

But if you rolled back immediately after exiting SH3 and prior to any SH3 installation folder renaming, you'd never have this problem.

And no there is no problems with having multiple installations of SH3Cmdr. There's instructions on how to do this in the SH3Cmdr sticky.
JScones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-06, 11:05 AM   #8
enaceo
XO
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 401
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0
Default

Oooh so that's my problem...thanks for ..."mending my ways" Jscones!
OK,I'll make a dual SH3 CMDR install then.
__________________
Came back after a long time ...ahoy mates!
enaceo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-06, 11:47 AM   #9
mountainmanUK
Sparky
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Blackburn, Lancashire, ENGLAND
Posts: 154
Downloads: 23
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JScones
No, you've got to rollback immediately AFTER you exit SH3. Otherwise, this is what happens:

1. You rename SH3 - GW to be your primary SH3
2. You run SH3Cmdr which rolls back and then loads files into this installation of SH3
3. You exit SH3
4. You rename this SH3 installation back to SH3 - GW then rename SH3 - NYGM to be your primary SH3
5. You run SH3Cmdr which rolls back into this installation of SH3 the files that it backed up last time and then loads new files

See what's happened? The files SH3Cmdr backed up when you ran SH3 (- GW) have now been restored into SH3 (- NYGM).

But if you rolled back immediately after exiting SH3 and prior to any SH3 installation folder renaming, you'd never have this problem.

And no there is no problems with having multiple installations of SH3Cmdr. There's instructions on how to do this in the SH3Cmdr sticky.

Hi JSCones!
First of all, may I say what a superb job you've done in creating SH3 Commander! Too often a programme which works well gets not much positive feedback, but anything with a slight hitch attracts mega-reams of criticism! I wanted to add my positive thoughts! I've been using it for a few months now, with absolutely NO problems....so long as I remember to "rollback"!!!
I've actually had 4 seperate SH3 installations, all with corresponding SH3Cmdr insttalls "to match"! Only once did I get a "cross-pollination", which was entirely down to my own stupidity!!

My question is this:

Is there any way in which you could build some kind of "perform auto rollback on close" feature into any future versions of SH3Cmdr??
I guess the answer will probably be a "no", or you would already have implimented it!!

This aspect seems to me to be the main cause of any problems which users have, in running SH3 through SH3 Cmdr. Everything else does exactly "what it says on the tin"!!!

Congratulations on a fine programme, and keep up the great work!

Regards,

Dave
mountainmanUK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-06, 07:54 PM   #10
JScones
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,501
Downloads: 19
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainmanUK
First of all, may I say what a superb job you've done in creating SH3 Commander! Too often a programme which works well gets not much positive feedback, but anything with a slight hitch attracts mega-reams of criticism!
Don't worry, many a demagnetised fridge magnet has been attributed to SH3Cmdr.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mountainmanUK
My question is this:

Is there any way in which you could build some kind of "perform auto rollback on close" feature into any future versions of SH3Cmdr??
I guess the answer will probably be a "no", or you would already have implimented it!!

This aspect seems to me to be the main cause of any problems which users have, in running SH3 through SH3 Cmdr. Everything else does exactly "what it says on the tin"!!!
Another proposed enhancement which I never got around to doing. What I had planned to do was:
a) store the values that SH3Cmdr changes in a database rather than back up entire files
b) load a small TSR when SH3Cmdr exits (and SH3 loads) which stays in memory until SH3 is exited. The act of exiting SH3 would invoke the TSR, which would either ask you if you wanted to rollback, or would automatically rollback itself.

This approach would eradicate the problem completely, but again, I've never had the time to build it. But if there is ever an SH4Cmdr (and I hope not, because if there is, it means that the devs have left features out again), then this is the way I'd be doing it.
JScones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-06, 01:17 AM   #11
mountainmanUK
Sparky
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Blackburn, Lancashire, ENGLAND
Posts: 154
Downloads: 23
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
But if there is ever an SH4Cmdr (and I hope not, because if there is, it means that the devs have left features out again), then this is the way I'd be doing it.
Judging by the way that the DEvs have almost ALWAYS omitted important features, in most sims or games, I guess that we will be using your superb software for a LOOOOOONG time to come!

Seriously, many thanks for your response. At least I now know that it IS possible

Fridgemagnets???......Havn't got room on my Uboat for any of them!

Cheers,
mountainmanUK is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.