Intellectual output from the Arab world

[Sixpack]

credit where credit is due..

obviously projected against Jewish output

http://www.masada2000.org/nobel.html

[Skybird]

That's because they are superhumans. One Muslim easily compensates for three dozen Jews, you know. In fact the list only illustrates the enormous inferiority of Jewish intellectualism. Just look how many names it took the Jews to rival that handful of names on the other side. Muslims became bored with their superiority and stopped following intellectual evolution for that reason. Instead they decided to find out how long they can hold their breath. the surprising result: since over a thousand years so far. Which may explain why so many of them so easily get red faces.

Now, seriously: what to expect after 1400 years of intellectual standstill and supression or murdering of almost every creative thinker?

I have to agree with this website. The facts speak for themselves. Maybe the little jewish population has made too much noise in the world and maybe that's why this page has been posted. Regardless, the website shows a great imbalance between the arabs and the jews.

[TLAM Strike]

What I really want to know is whose severed arm is that in the picture!

BTW since this is the trendy thing to do: I posted the list of Arab Nobel Winners in another thread...

[Sixpack]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

What I really want to know is whose severed arm is that in the picture!

[check] Not mine ! Oops, bad choice of word here: 'mine'

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

What I really want to know is whose severed arm is that in the picture!

Anyone here?

Don't be shy. Please raise your hand.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Anyone here?

Don't be shy. Please raise your hand.

[scandium]

Interesting page. I particularly like how the author of it, based upon a single criteria (relative number of Nobel prize winners) draws the sweeping conclusion that:

"Unless the Swedes and Norwegians start awarding Nobel Prizes for plane hijackings, pizza shop bombings, civilian bus attacks, Jihad suicides/homicides, drive-by shootings, throat-slittings, embassy attacks and other such acts of barbarisms, the embarrassing low level of contribution to the welfare of Civilization and Mankind by the [Arab] Muslim world will continue."

Calling 1.4 billion people "barbarians" (to paraphrase the long quote) is quite a sweeping generalization. Certainly out of any group of 1.4 million people you're going to have your share of fanatics and nutjobs, but that's a pretty broad brush he uses to paint this whole ethnic/religious group with.

As to to why Arabs produce disproportionately fewer Nobel prize winners, there are probably many factors. I somehow doubt, though, that its simply because they're all committing hijackings, bombings, bus attacks, shootings, and throat-slittings; for if that were true there'd be none of us left to talk about it.

[Skybird]

The question remains why in that community there is obviously only small, often no resistence towards such barbaric acts, and why such a big community obviously is underrepresented in the list of Nobel Prizes.

The least thing that can be said is that in Christian/Western, Buddhist and other communities the pressure of that community towards criticising or brandmarking or isolating or prosecuting such extremist elements in it's middle is far higher, higher beyond comparison. even amongst Jews in general and Israelis in special there is more debate and pressure from the one opinion party to get the deadlock of violance solved, and questioning the Israelis government in it's reactions to the Palestinians terror.

And where Europe in the medieva,l and in times after that, tried to oppress any threats to the church and preventing any alternatives to the worldview of the church, but finally got beyond that (that'S why Jews and the West were able to establish a culture that produced so many Nobel Proze winners), Muslim community still sticks to the medieval supression of anything that is not it'S orthdoxy, and even tells the world it has a right to overcome anything that is not Islamic, if needed by violance. In that supression of any internal oppostion or alternative, Islam is far more extreme and successful than the church in the medieval ever was. We have come beyond the medieval. Islam not.

All in the name of religion, of course.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by scandium

Calling 1.4 billion people "barbarians" (to paraphrase the long quote) is quite a sweeping generalization.

Well technically the term Barbarian comes from a Greek word meaning "Non-Greek" so yes most Muslims are "barbarians".

[Skybird]

I wonder how many of those 1.4 billion barbarians that do not want to be called barbarians will go on the street and demonstrate against this:

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asi...s+paper+A+to+Z

[Sixpack]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I wonder how many of those 1.4 billion barbarians that do not want to be called barbarians will go on the street and demonstrate against this:

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asi...s+paper+A+to+Z

Well, that is sad news indeed, but I am currently more concerned about some pressing Dutch matters:

1. The Burqa will possibly become fashionable (current minister thinks it frees women after a study trip to Abu Daibi
2. The really urgent need for at least 100 more muslim schools, for starters ofcourse.

Anyone still wonders why Sixpack sometimes feels stuck in the middle of at least 2 insane worlds ?

[scandium]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I wonder how many of those 1.4 billion barbarians that do not want to be called barbarians will go on the street and demonstrate against this:

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asi...s+paper+A+to+Z

Didn't we just liberate that country from harsh Islamic theocracy and install a Western friendly democracy? This is supposedly our Western interventionist success story and you have to go and point this story out.

While on the subject of executions, they are a pretty scarce thing these days and are practiced only by one country that prides itself as being "civilized" - the USA.

I think they are possibly the only country (or one of a very, very few) to execute both children under the age of 18 and the mentally retarded. Not only that but the country elected its current leader (twice) who had been caught on camera mocking the retarded woman he'd just refused clemency to. How many of the 280 million in the US protested?

And its not like no innocent Americans have ever waited on death row for the needle or the gas chamber (isn't this the same thing the "barbaric" Nazis used on the Jews?) only to be saved at the last minute by DNA evidence proving them innocent of the crime. We can only wonder, then, how many have been wrongfully put to death by the state.

No I'm not equating the USA with Afghanistan. They're a semi-sovereign nation with their own laws and customs and unfortunately for the West, not all of the world is white, christian, and prosperous. In many cases they don't even have the say in who governs them or writes their laws that we do (being often times ruled by a succession of dictators).

I would doubt that many of the world's 1.4 billion Arabs, many of whom live in either chaos, or poverty (Iraq being a prime example of both, though it was neither before we intervened to "fix it") read the Boston Globe though.

Your previous post raised much better questions.

[Sixpack]

Originally Posted by Oberon

What are those morons doing ? In Amsterdam, so it appears. Bah !

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Sixpack

What are those morons doing ? In Amsterdam, so it appears. Bah !

Red right district? :hmm: