Graf Spee's eagle raised

CCIP · 02-10-06, 06:34 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4702832.stm

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Divers have salvaged a 2m (6ft) bronze imperial eagle from the German World War II battleship Graf Spee that was scuttled in the River Plate.

Now when's the whole thing coming up, eh? :hmm:

STEED · 02-10-06, 06:59 PM

I don't think they will it's a war grave. :hmm:

CCIP · 02-10-06, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

I don't think they will it's a war grave. :hmm:

Oh really?

From earlier BBC article:

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The project is being financed by private investors from the US and Europe, and has the backing of the Uruguayan Government.

Once restored, the vessel is eventually expected to become a tourist attraction in Montevideo.

STEED · 02-10-06, 07:21 PM

Has anyone asked Germany?

I don't see the point in raising it. Still a good early morning read 00:32AM heck.

Torplexed · 02-10-06, 08:38 PM

Under the laws of maritime salvage, do they even have to ask Germany? Most of the crew was left behind on the pier and the skeleton crew left the ship before she was deliberately scuttled so it can't be considered a war grave.

sonar732 · 02-10-06, 08:40 PM

The captain was so embarassed..or should we say, afraid...that he stayed on the ship.

Torplexed · 02-10-06, 08:42 PM

I seem to recall reading Langsdorff wrapped himself in the Imperial German naval flag in his Buenos Aires hotel room and shot himself.

sonar732 · 02-10-06, 08:48 PM

I should've Googled before posting...sorry. I stand corrected.

Etienne · 02-10-06, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

Under the laws of maritime salvage, do they even have to ask Germany?

Nope. If it's in someone's territorial waters, it depends on that country's law.

I do believe that once it is raised, it'll have to be turned in to the receiver of wrecks, who will then try to contact the owners (IE, Germany). If the owners agree to pay the salvage fee, then it's theirs, otherwise the salver may keep it.

Something like that, anyway.

AG124 · 02-11-06, 09:01 AM

Didn't the UK buy the wreck from Urugauy shortly after she was scuttled anyway?

Etienne · 02-11-06, 11:46 AM

I don't think you can buy a wreck that's still on the bottom...

Kapitan · 02-11-06, 12:34 PM

yes you can an american billionaire owns titanic

Rotary Crewman · 02-11-06, 01:12 PM

Why would you want to own the titanic? Can you charge people to dive it?

Godalmighty83 · 02-11-06, 01:29 PM

the grave of the titanic has already been completely raped by people of low morals, lots of money from the deads possesions...

Kapitan · 02-11-06, 01:32 PM

Yes they do charge per dive the guy who made titanic film did a 10 part documentary on titanic he was charges $35 million for it, not to mention the kelvdysh and the two mirs at $6 million per day then add crew food and stuff alot of money.

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Rotary Crewman Sonar Guy Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The cold part of a Helicopter, the back. Posts: 395 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why would you want to own the titanic? Can you charge people to dive it? __________________

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Godalmighty83 Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 398 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	the grave of the titanic has already been completely raped by people of low morals, lots of money from the deads possesions... __________________ Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

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02-10-06, 06:59 PM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I don't think they will it's a war grave. :hmm:

02-10-06, 07:21 PM	#4
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Has anyone asked Germany? I don't see the point in raising it. Still a good early morning read 00:32AM heck.

02-10-06, 08:38 PM	#5
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Under the laws of maritime salvage, do they even have to ask Germany? Most of the crew was left behind on the pier and the skeleton crew left the ship before she was deliberately scuttled so it can't be considered a war grave.

02-10-06, 08:40 PM	#6
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The captain was so embarassed..or should we say, afraid...that he stayed on the ship.

02-10-06, 08:42 PM	#7
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I seem to recall reading Langsdorff wrapped himself in the Imperial German naval flag in his Buenos Aires hotel room and shot himself.

02-10-06, 08:48 PM	#8
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I should've Googled before posting...sorry. I stand corrected.

02-11-06, 09:01 AM	#10
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Didn't the UK buy the wreck from Urugauy shortly after she was scuttled anyway?

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Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I don't think you can buy a wreck that's still on the bottom...