From St. Nazaire to Lock Ewe?

McBeck · 08-08-05, 07:33 AM

Possible?

stratege · 08-08-05, 07:41 AM

???????????????

What is the question ??

All depends of your ship.

McBeck · 08-08-05, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stratege

???????????????

What is the question ??

All depends of your ship.

Sorry. From St. Nazaire to Lock Ewe in a VIIB or VIIC, is it possible?

Schemer · 08-08-05, 08:03 AM

Possible, and then some...
Type VII range is well over 10,000 km at 1/3 or slow speed, IIRC...

stratege · 08-08-05, 08:05 AM

This might be possible if:

- you do the direct shortest path to it.
- Spend maximun time submerge a slow motion until reaching oxygene/baterie limit, then
- surface at 1/3 ahead, untin air/baterie is full, then get submerge again .....

I will give a try ...

Schemer · 08-08-05, 08:08 AM

You guys must mean via the Suez Canal. I thought the VII was could make it across the atlantic, and maybe even back again. Loch Ewe is just a short jaunt around Ireland to the top of Scotland...

SmokinTep · 08-08-05, 08:27 AM

VII won't make it across the Atlantic and back. I am in a IX and to get there and back is basically at slow speed.

Schemer · 08-08-05, 08:31 AM

Yeah, that was a "maybe" regarding the return trip.
I have made it to Newfoundland with fuel remaining. Got killed before I had the chance to run out of gas on the way home.

Nopileo · 08-08-05, 11:56 AM

Well Loch Ewe is basically just across the canal (and a few miles :P) from St. Nazaire. You could probably make it in a type II boat.

Egan · 08-08-05, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinTep

VII won't make it across the Atlantic and back. I am in a IX and to get there and back is basically at slow speed.

Yes it will. You just have to economise on speed and fuel.

Carcassonne · 08-08-05, 12:10 PM

Absolutely possible...I've left Wilhelmshaven in a VIIB (shorter range) and travelled north of Scapa to grid BE62 (nearly due west of Western France).

In fact during that patrol I used my battery power as much as possible, reached BE62 (North of Scapa), hunted a convoy in grid AM51, entered Loch Ewe, and then returned to Wilhelmshaven (again the northern route) and upon my return I had roughly 60% fuel remaining.

Payoff · 08-08-05, 04:42 PM

I am in Brest with a VIIB and constantly assigned grid AM32 North of Loch Ewe. I usually end up chasing convoys coming out of AL at flank speed on the return trip and make it home with fuel to spare, no problem.

Charos · 08-08-05, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Egan

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokinTep

VII won't make it across the Atlantic and back. I am in a IX and to get there and back is basically at slow speed.

Yes it will. You just have to economise on speed and fuel.

Yes this was done on a regular basis during the war - 6 Knots is the speed of travel.

A real Type VII running economy cruise would run on one Diesel at any given time - this was changed every 4 Hours to equalise wear.

The active diesel would be clutched to its E-machine which would keep the batteries on float - the other shaft would be clutched to its E-machine and driven off that.

This configuration was more economical than running at the same speed with both diesels.

Knotical · 08-11-05, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by McBeck

Possible?

Sorry, but you cant get there from there.

Mowgli · 08-11-05, 04:49 AM

You can get there and still have fuel left for hunting on return.

I have been there in my VIIb - nothing except two dd's but sometimes there is a cruiser but not on my visit.

When surfaced I always travel at slow speed - ask you NO for range at current speed. Loads of fuel left on return to base but journeys obviously take much longer.

08-08-05, 07:33 AM	#1
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	From St. Nazaire to Lock Ewe? Possible? __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

08-08-05, 07:41 AM	#2
stratege Sparky Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: FRANCE - Grenoble Posts: 152 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	??????????????? What is the question ?? All depends of your ship. __________________ Too many alias ... stratege=clarkfromrainbow

08-08-05, 08:05 AM	#5
stratege Sparky Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: FRANCE - Grenoble Posts: 152 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This might be possible if: - you do the direct shortest path to it. - Spend maximun time submerge a slow motion until reaching oxygene/baterie limit, then - surface at 1/3 ahead, untin air/baterie is full, then get submerge again ..... I will give a try ... __________________ Too many alias ... stratege=clarkfromrainbow

08-08-05, 04:42 PM	#12
Payoff Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nash Town, USA Posts: 525 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I am in Brest with a VIIB and constantly assigned grid AM32 North of Loch Ewe. I usually end up chasing convoys coming out of AL at flank speed on the return trip and make it home with fuel to spare, no problem. __________________ "Hit Shokaku class carrier with three out of six torpedos. Recieved 105 depth charges during three hour period. Heard four terrific explosions in the direction of target, two and one half hours after attack. Believe that baby sank!" Lieutenant Commander Herman Kossler USS Cavalla

08-11-05, 04:49 AM	#15
Mowgli Sparks Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Wales Posts: 248 Downloads: 158 Uploads: 0	Yes you can You can get there and still have fuel left for hunting on return. I have been there in my VIIb - nothing except two dd's but sometimes there is a cruiser but not on my visit. When surfaced I always travel at slow speed - ask you NO for range at current speed. Loads of fuel left on return to base but journeys obviously take much longer.

08-08-05, 08:03 AM	#4
Schemer Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 13 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Possible, and then some... Type VII range is well over 10,000 km at 1/3 or slow speed, IIRC...

08-08-05, 08:08 AM	#6
Schemer Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 13 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	You guys must mean via the Suez Canal. I thought the VII was could make it across the atlantic, and maybe even back again. Loch Ewe is just a short jaunt around Ireland to the top of Scotland...

08-08-05, 08:27 AM	#7
SmokinTep Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Suffolk, Virginia Posts: 1,027 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	VII won't make it across the Atlantic and back. I am in a IX and to get there and back is basically at slow speed.

08-08-05, 08:31 AM	#8
Schemer Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 13 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Yeah, that was a "maybe" regarding the return trip. I have made it to Newfoundland with fuel remaining. Got killed before I had the chance to run out of gas on the way home.

08-08-05, 11:56 AM	#9
Nopileo Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 333 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Well Loch Ewe is basically just across the canal (and a few miles :P) from St. Nazaire. You could probably make it in a type II boat.

08-08-05, 12:10 PM	#11
Carcassonne Loader Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 82 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Absolutely possible...I've left Wilhelmshaven in a VIIB (shorter range) and travelled north of Scapa to grid BE62 (nearly due west of Western France). In fact during that patrol I used my battery power as much as possible, reached BE62 (North of Scapa), hunted a convoy in grid AM51, entered Loch Ewe, and then returned to Wilhelmshaven (again the northern route) and upon my return I had roughly 60% fuel remaining.

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