Terrorist 1 Western democracy 0

[mapuc]

Tomorrow it's 20 years since this terrible thing happened and did we win the war on terrorist ?

I say no we did not.

Markus

[Platapus]

That would depend on how one chooses to define winning in this context.

[Skybird]

1:0...?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rorist_attacks


And thats not even a complete list, only the most prominent events.

[mapuc]

It was a Danish on fb who went through the years after 9/11-01.

After reading it I thought Terrorist 1 Western democracy 0.

Some words from the article(what I can remember)

Despite our endeavor to erase Al-Qaeda USA and its allied failed to do so.

Even our goal to fight terrorist in Afghanistan and Iraq, they manage to strike in the heart of Europe on several occasion. Such as London, Paris, Cologne, Stockholm.

Trying to find the article.

Markus

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

1:0...?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rorist_attacks


And thats not even a complete list, only the most prominent events.

See this 20 years as a whole football match 2X45 minutes.

Markus

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Platapus

That would depend on how one chooses to define winning in this context.

Just out of curiosity, how do you define it and in what context?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

1:0...?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rorist_attacks


And thats not even a complete list, only the most prominent events.

Precisely

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Just out of curiosity, how do you define it and in what context?

I think that question is too complex and complicated to be able to adequately answered in a post. There are so many different aspects of that question.


“The important thing in strategy is to suppress the enemy's useful actions but allow his useless actions” - Old man Musashi's kid


If we accept this as an aspect, in my opinion, the terrorists are winning. There are, however many other aspects to consider which may counter this.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by Platapus

That would depend on how one chooses to define winning in this context.

Not throwing away thousands of lives and giving truckloads of money to contractors and corrupt foreign governments?

We could have done so much with just special forces paired with air power.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

We could have done so much with just special forces paired with air power.

Ha...!

[mapuc]

I'm sorry friends I made one mistake
I read the article-closed fb-opened youtube thereafter.

I should have saved the article and used translate and post the translation here in this thread.

Yes there have been a lot more terror attacks than one and our western democracy have won a few battles to. Example they got Osama Bin Laden and this was a huge victory.

But the main task getting rid of Al-Qaeda failed.

I could have written Al-Qaeda 1 Western democracy 0.

Markus

[Platapus]

Eliminating AQ is an impossible goal.


No matter how many you kill, some group of jerks can just call themselves AQ and it continues. It is not like there are any internationally recognized requirements or certifications.


I doubt that the U.S. will ever argue "no, Terrorist A, you are really not AQ you are some other group". In fact the opposite may occur -- any terrorist we kill we can claim WAS a member of AQ and who is in a position to argue?

[Skybird]

Why waging war on Islamic terror if one surrenders to Islam at home and glosses over its inherent racism, supremacism, patriarchalism and brutality anyway? It makes no sense.

https://translate.google.com/transla...den_der_sieger

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Why waging war on Islamic terror if one surrenders to Islam at home and glosses over its inherent racism, supremacism, patriarchalism and brutality anyway? It makes no sense.

https://translate.google.com/transla...den_der_sieger

Without yet reading the article you link, does it, per chance, make a false equivalency to the religion of Islam and radical terrorists that claim their ideology accurately represents it?

[mapuc]

Following is copied from the article Skybird posted in his last thread.

"In the meantime, however, it is becoming clear that we have changed the way we live. The West is submitting more and more to Islam. Terror has achieved its goal: to frighten the population and to impose their premature obedience."

After the terror attack in Cologne and Stockholm, the area around the Danish parliament was rebuild with huge round stones-Here they got the nickname Koranklodser-Quranbriks.

Even in Sweden they have rebuild the area around the Swedish Parliament.

The harbour in Denmark and Sweden has been rebuild to be terror protected. Especially those where there's in and outgoing ships from abroad. International connection.

Markus