The real Sophie Scholl (?)

Skybird · 05-09-21, 07:19 AM

https://translate.google.com/transla..._12832430.html

She initially raved for the Nazis, and was desinterested in the fate of the Jews during Crystal Night. I did not know that. But "it is often more difficult to recognize a path that has been taken as wrong, to turn around and take the opposite path than to have recognized the right one from the start. At first, both Scholls did not even consider going into resistance against Hitler and his terror regime. Both were at first even staunch National Socialists."

Aktungbby · 05-09-21, 12:05 PM

Of collateral interest: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Hartnagel

Quote:

Hartnagel surrendered to U.S. troops in Halle (Saale) on April 14, 1945, and was a prisoner of war in the United States until September 1945. In October 1945 he married Elisabeth Scholl (1920-2020), a sister of Sophie, in Ulm. The couple had four sons: Thomas (born 1947), later historian, Jörg (born 1949), Klaus (* 1952) and Martin (born 1956).

Jimbuna · 05-09-21, 01:50 PM

I must admit I'd never heard of her.

tmccarthy · 05-09-21, 02:31 PM

I remember.

Bilge_Rat · 05-10-21, 10:16 AM

I heard of her and saw the movie, very brave young women.

As to the point Skybird raised, she is not the 1st person who initially believed one thing, only to later realize the truth was something else, so I don't hold it against her.

HunterICX · 05-11-21, 03:30 AM

Nobody is born a saint, we're all humans and what matters is the choices we've made during our time of which she made a brave one in the end.

It's news to me but not a suprising one since she was a teenager after all. She however did eventually open her eyes and see the rotten truth of what she first cheered and decided to be against it which I applaude.

05-09-21, 07:19 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The real Sophie Scholl (?) https://translate.google.com/transla..._12832430.html She initially raved for the Nazis, and was desinterested in the fate of the Jews during Crystal Night. I did not know that. But "it is often more difficult to recognize a path that has been taken as wrong, to turn around and take the opposite path than to have recognized the right one from the start. At first, both Scholls did not even consider going into resistance against Hitler and his terror regime. Both were at first even staunch National Socialists." __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-09-21, 01:50 PM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I must admit I'd never heard of her. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-09-21, 02:31 PM	#4
tmccarthy Admiral Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,302 Downloads: 270 Uploads: 16	I remember. __________________ Last edited by tmccarthy; 05-09-21 at 03:28 PM.

05-10-21, 10:16 AM	#5
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	I heard of her and saw the movie, very brave young women. As to the point Skybird raised, she is not the 1st person who initially believed one thing, only to later realize the truth was something else, so I don't hold it against her. __________________

05-11-21, 03:30 AM	#6
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Nobody is born a saint, we're all humans and what matters is the choices we've made during our time of which she made a brave one in the end. It's news to me but not a suprising one since she was a teenager after all. She however did eventually open her eyes and see the rotten truth of what she first cheered and decided to be against it which I applaude. __________________

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