Is Italy ever going to have a proper government?

[Krieg Francis]

On my side, no, since I'm Italian and I see no hope for my country

What do you think?

[hauangua]

Originally Posted by Krieg Francis

On my side, no, since I'm Italian and I see no hope for my country

What do you think?

Condivido, Purtroppo

[Jimbuna]

Could prove difficult

[ChrisTayeb]

politici tutti maiale

Belgium, Greece, Spain, France...
The list of countries going sideways because of bad politicians who make bad politics seems a never ending one

Salva il popolo

[Krieg Francis]

Originally Posted by hauangua

Condivido, Purtroppo

Bello vedere un compatriota ogni tanto!

[Onkel Neal]

Krieg, I'm not up to date on Italian politics, can you provide a summary, from your point of view? You don't have a used car salesman as President too, do you?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Krieg Francis

On my side, no, since I'm Italian and I see no hope for my country

What do you think?

https://freeprivatecities.com/


The system is corrupt by design, all in the West and all beyond that , and so it is no surprise that it produces corruption, and corrupted staff that is bred by this system that is - well, corrupt.


I am in the middle of reading that book in that link, I know the author from earlier readings on the web. Very solid arguments he has. And healthy plain reason as well.



I have quite a small library now with books arguing against this Western pathology named "democracy". Its a joke that starts already with laughing about that what we call democracy today has nothing, absolutely nothing in common with those we refer to as being the cradle of decomarcy: ancient Greece.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The system is corrupt by design, all in the West and all beyond that , we call democracy today has nothing, absolutely nothing in common with those we refer to as being the cradle of decomarcy: ancient Greece.

...OR ANCIENT REPUBLICAN ROME! THE FIRST RULE OF POLITICS IS : 'BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH' ....A VERY ITALIAN CONCEPT!
THE DAGGER HAS SIMPLY BEEN REPLACED BY A TWITTER ACOUNT BUT THE BACKSTABBING GOES ON!

[Sailor Steve]

An old friend whose grandfather came to America from Sicily once told me they had a saying: "Any time two Italians get together you immediately have three new political parties."

[STEED]

Show me a honest government first.

[Skybird]

HuffPost Italy dropped the bomb when publishing a draft of the coalition agreement between the two parties negotiating for government currently. They want to leave the Euro, and demand a debt cut of 250 billion.



As long as Kunos Simulazioni nevertheless pushes out Assetto Corsa Competizione, I'm fine with that.



Meanwhile the EU plans for new members on the Balkan. Somebody has to save this ruinous club, right, so why not the economical powerplayers on the Balkan?

[ChrisTayeb]

Originally Posted by STEED

Show me a honest government first.

Well yes, exactly!
There is in France a guy named Etienne Chouard that got my attention since 2012 or so, as he explained during the countless conferences he has given that our system is corrupt by principle because we (the people) have given up on politics to leave an elite group take care of it.
To resume quite simply, those of the elite group making the law have the keys to change at will what rules or laws they need to render us even more powerless.
Since this Etienne Chouard insists on us the people to get more active in politics by grouping up to write our own constitution and let not professional politicians do it for us.
Re-public (the people is king) or demo-cracy (the people have the power) mean more or less the same thing, which is quite far from what happens in our society, I'm asking you guys, what power do we have?
To insert a piece of paper, every once in while with someone's name on to do the job we actually don't want to do
The thing is democracy takes some doings, we have dismissed in our role of law makers, and therefore we comply with wathever those we placed in charge have decided for us, cause if you don't, well you become an outlaw.
We should reconsider, and maybe give up on some distractions to work a bit on that power we suppose to have, else others we'll do it for us

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

...OR ANCIENT REPUBLICAN ROME!

I've always liked the "mixed constitution" system they had, the checks and balances worked quite nicely. Far from perfect of course, but for its time it worked rather well.