HMS Terror and HMS Warrior Wrecks found.

iambecomelife · 09-12-16, 04:39 PM

HMS Terror, as you may know, was the second of the Franklin Expedition ships, lost while seeking out the Northwest Passage. She's said to be in "pristine" condition.

https://www.rt.com/viral/359113-fran...ms-ship-found/

HMS Warrior was sunk at Jutland in 1916, after suffering serious damage during the engagement from German battleships. Unlike two other ships in her squadron ("Black Prince" and "Defence"), some of her crew survived. She's intact and upside down, with propellers visible..

http://thepipeline.info/blog/2016/09...lenge-for-mod/

Eichhörnchen · 09-12-16, 11:52 PM

Just heard about this on the BBC radio news. Always so exciting when they find something like this.

Jimbuna · 09-13-16, 09:48 AM

Two great finds

iambecomelife · 09-13-16, 04:22 PM

The big mystery with Terror is, what was her status when she sank? It's possible that Crozier, or whoever was left after Franklin died, ordered a few sailors to turn back and stick on board in case "Terror" was released from the ice, while everyone else walked South to Back's (Fish) River (sadly, no one made it). Or, she may not have been reboarded at all, and could have drifted for miles. In the ice pack, some ships will stay beset for decades before they sink, drifting many miles. Hopefully, some of these mysteries can be solved.

Not much mysterious about Warrior's sinking, because she was clearly described in a sinking condition after her crew was evacuated. I assume she rolled over onto whichever side was facing the German ships (and would have had more flooding from shell holes)... then, she must have completely flipped underwater before hitting the sea floor. Interesting how "Defence", from a very similar class of cruiser, came to rest upright on the seabed, despite massive damage.

ABBAFAN · 09-13-16, 05:48 PM

There is a possibility that the ship was remanned and sailed to Terror Bay. We might have to reevaluate the whole Death March scenario. As a follower of this story for many years it's fascinating to see the ships in such condition. Most historians had considered them probably lost forever or else in dreadful condition. The Franklin FB page is humming with activity.
Hopefully the next find will be documentation.

The Warrior find is good also. Especially not long after the centenary commemorations.

Aktungbby · 09-13-16, 08:21 PM

@ moderator: Might be worth merging with: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=215539

09-12-16, 04:39 PM	#1
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	HMS Terror and HMS Warrior Wrecks found. HMS Terror, as you may know, was the second of the Franklin Expedition ships, lost while seeking out the Northwest Passage. She's said to be in "pristine" condition. https://www.rt.com/viral/359113-fran...ms-ship-found/ HMS Warrior was sunk at Jutland in 1916, after suffering serious damage during the engagement from German battleships. Unlike two other ships in her squadron ("Black Prince" and "Defence"), some of her crew survived. She's intact and upside down, with propellers visible.. http://thepipeline.info/blog/2016/09...lenge-for-mod/ __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

09-12-16, 11:52 PM	#2
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,380 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Just heard about this on the BBC radio news. Always so exciting when they find something like this. __________________

09-13-16, 09:48 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Two great finds __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-13-16, 04:22 PM	#4
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	The big mystery with Terror is, what was her status when she sank? It's possible that Crozier, or whoever was left after Franklin died, ordered a few sailors to turn back and stick on board in case "Terror" was released from the ice, while everyone else walked South to Back's (Fish) River (sadly, no one made it). Or, she may not have been reboarded at all, and could have drifted for miles. In the ice pack, some ships will stay beset for decades before they sink, drifting many miles. Hopefully, some of these mysteries can be solved. Not much mysterious about Warrior's sinking, because she was clearly described in a sinking condition after her crew was evacuated. I assume she rolled over onto whichever side was facing the German ships (and would have had more flooding from shell holes)... then, she must have completely flipped underwater before hitting the sea floor. Interesting how "Defence", from a very similar class of cruiser, came to rest upright on the seabed, despite massive damage. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

09-13-16, 05:48 PM	#5
ABBAFAN Commander Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 456 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There is a possibility that the ship was remanned and sailed to Terror Bay. We might have to reevaluate the whole Death March scenario. As a follower of this story for many years it's fascinating to see the ships in such condition. Most historians had considered them probably lost forever or else in dreadful condition. The Franklin FB page is humming with activity. Hopefully the next find will be documentation. The Warrior find is good also. Especially not long after the centenary commemorations. __________________ CHOOSE RFA! LESS GRAFT, MORE PAY.

09-13-16, 08:21 PM	#6
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