Obama's mass commutations

Feuer Frei! · 08-04-16, 05:24 AM

The big man's hard at work:

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President Barack Obama announced on Wednesday that he is shortening prison sentences for 214 federal prisoners, 56 of whom have firearms related convictions on their records.
The mass commutation is the largest ever issued in a single day U.S. history, the White House said in a press release

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Jimbuna · 08-04-16, 07:59 AM

So much for his supposed stance on gun crime/control

Mr Quatro · 08-04-16, 05:01 PM

I think this is bad deal for the average citizen with a reported 55% of the inmates let go are back in less than two years.

Obama is determined to let a lot more go too in the next 4 month time window of his office.

I hope he has a hole in his bucket list for the Guantanamo Bay detention camp a United States
military prison located within Guantanamo Bay Naval Base.

Just send the worse cases to Guantanamo with no hope of return

Platapus · 08-04-16, 06:28 PM

It should be noted that not all of the commutations will result in immediate release. It should be noted that those that will be released will still be required to fulfill their parole sentences.

If you want to read on each case, go to

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-commutations

Mike Abberton · 08-05-16, 09:33 AM

I am not an Obama fan, but I did hear part of the news conference yesterday. These commutations are generally for cases where sentencing guidelines today have been modified relative to when those receiving commutations were sentenced, in many cases drastically downward. So 20 years ago, someone got a 40 year sentence for something that would only get 20 years today. Since that time, they've been good inmates who improved their lot in life (e.g., got a GED, training, etc.). These commutations are "setting the record right", which seems reasonable to me.

The commutations which included gun charges were being made for someone who might have had a gun on their person when arrested, but not for anyone who used the gun in the course of the crime they were arrested for (or in connection with other crimes that might have been known).

Of all the reasons, I might not be happy with him, this is not one of them.

08-04-16, 07:59 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	So much for his supposed stance on gun crime/control __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-04-16, 05:01 PM	#3
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think this is bad deal for the average citizen with a reported 55% of the inmates let go are back in less than two years. Obama is determined to let a lot more go too in the next 4 month time window of his office. I hope he has a hole in his bucket list for the Guantanamo Bay detention camp a United States military prison located within Guantanamo Bay Naval Base. Just send the worse cases to Guantanamo with no hope of return __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

08-04-16, 06:28 PM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It should be noted that not all of the commutations will result in immediate release. It should be noted that those that will be released will still be required to fulfill their parole sentences. If you want to read on each case, go to https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-commutations __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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08-05-16, 09:33 AM	#5
Mike Abberton Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 135 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	I am not an Obama fan, but I did hear part of the news conference yesterday. These commutations are generally for cases where sentencing guidelines today have been modified relative to when those receiving commutations were sentenced, in many cases drastically downward. So 20 years ago, someone got a 40 year sentence for something that would only get 20 years today. Since that time, they've been good inmates who improved their lot in life (e.g., got a GED, training, etc.). These commutations are "setting the record right", which seems reasonable to me. The commutations which included gun charges were being made for someone who might have had a gun on their person when arrested, but not for anyone who used the gun in the course of the crime they were arrested for (or in connection with other crimes that might have been known). Of all the reasons, I might not be happy with him, this is not one of them.