I miss surface battles...

[speed150mph]

So I was watching all the new videos this morning on world of warships, praying that soon ill get accepted for closed beta, when I started thinking back of when I used to play Enigma: Rising tide. The more and more I thought about it the more I wanted to play it. Unfortunately the new windows I have will not run it.

So long story short, Im left wondering what is out there for surface command sims like enigma rising tide. I know there is battle stations pacific but that's more of a fleet oriented. What I really want is like silent hunter goes to the surface. where you command one ship as captain. Anybody have any suggestions besides mods for SH?

[CCIP]

Unfortunately, not really anything modern and particularly simulation-y. Have you looked into World of Warships or the (soon-to-be-made) naval part of War Thunder? Those sound like they might be good for you, although they're both massively-online games.

[Red October1984]

I still occasionally play Enigma on my windows 7 laptop. It's fun.

I'd love an HD remake/overhaul someday.

[Julhelm]

If you could have a new game similar to Enigma, what would you want to change/improve about it?

[speed150mph]

You wouldn't believe how hard I've been trying to get into world of warships closed beta.

And as for what I'd like in a game like enigma, I loved it's interface, and how you could order the crew to battlestations or take control of guns yourself. I also loved the depth of the gameplay. What I would change though was make it more historically accurate. The whole prewar America vs Germany vs some weird combo of Japan and the uk didn't fit. Make it based off of real naval battles. Also I would have liked if they added more controllable ship types, and ships in general. We never saw any cruisers or carriers, and there is a huge gap between destroyers and battleships.

With the fairly good work they've done, I'd say someone should get ubi to take what they learned with silent hunter and make a similar surface ship game.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by speed150mph

With the fairly good work they've done, I'd say someone should get ubi to take what they learned with silent hunter and make a similar surface ship game.

They tried with Destroyer Command...but I doubt we'll ever see another good naval release from Ubi...

[FightingSteel1]

It certainly is a forgotten part of the genre, and I constantly wish for one good quality WWII surface game.

I liked Enigma well enough, but the alternative universe/archaic designs weren't my thing. Between it and Destroyer Command, there was too much emphasis on smaller vessels/small battles IMO.

World of Warships seemed interesting enough, but from my perspective it's going to be absolute trash in the end. Maybe not a popular opinion, but running BBs around like speedboats, shooting at 500yds away, damage meters, etc. is a waste of time. For sim fans, I don't know why WoWs wouldn't be a hard pass.

[oche]

Destroyer Command i keep installed in one my desktop PCs for that naval battles nostalgia. I'm also resurrecting an old desktop to install Win98 to exclusively play older games and sims such as SSI FIGHTING STEEL and many others.

[Chad]

What theater interests you guys the most for WW2 era surface battles? Atlantic, Pacific? Destroyer Command's career was fun in the Pacific, but stressful in the Atlantic only because I could never figure out how to properly judge a sub's depth on the sonar.

[oche]

Originally Posted by Chad

What theater interests you guys the most for WW2 era surface battles? Atlantic, Pacific? Destroyer Command's career was fun in the Pacific, but stressful in the Atlantic only because I could never figure out how to properly judge a sub's depth on the sonar.

I'm more keen on Pacific theatre surface battles, but atlantic battles don't come too much far behind. I agree with the Atlantic campaign in DC being a bit stressful. The fletcher mod really improved gameplay IMHO (reducing shell hit probability) making surface battles last longer and the range finding was no longer done by laser as same as the laser guided AI depth charges did always explode at the exact uboat's depth in SHII. Modding also helped with this depth charge issue.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by FightingSteel1

Maybe not a popular opinion, but running BBs around like speedboats, shooting at 500yds away, damage meters, etc. is a waste of time. For sim fans, I don't know why WoWs wouldn't be a hard pass.

Oh, I'm with you on that entirely! It's just that it's really the closest you get today, unfortunately

For the moment, surface combat games have moved into the realms of either arcade/MOBA-style play, or into the realm of tokens-on-a-map strategic wargames. I'm optimistic something will come around eventually, though.

[Julhelm]

I think you guys would like our game, Atlantic Fleet, when it comes out. It's a lot closer in spirit to Great Naval Battles than World of Warships.

[oche]

Originally Posted by Julhelm

I think you guys would like our game, Atlantic Fleet, when it comes out. It's a lot closer in spirit to Great Naval Battles than World of Warships.

Great that should do it then, I'll stay on the lookout for release.

[Eichhörnchen]

Originally Posted by oche

Destroyer Command i keep installed in one my desktop PCs for that naval battles nostalgia. I'm also resurrecting an old desktop to install Win98 to exclusively play older games and sims such as SSI FIGHTING STEEL and many others.

I'm right with you there: I still pick up old discs consigned by others to second-hand stores to run on my old desktop, and have discovered many eminently playable, enjoyable treasures.

And just as SH3 is still top rated by many after ten years... in the world of flight simming (despite all-new platforms like X-Plane) many people have stuck with their old FS9 (Microsoft's "Flight Simulator 2004") as their mainstay; newest isn't always best, for many reasons.

Destroyer Command runs well on that pc too, as does Enigma.

[Platapus]

What ever happened to Knights of the Sea (I think that's correct)? Was that not a PT boat simulator or something