Need Help. CTD when trying to play single missions.

[silverdragon41]

As the title says have problems trying to play a historical mission. It ctd just before it starts right after the loading screen.

Mods:
Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[H:\Silent Hunter 5\MODS]

BRF 1.3 full
BRF 1.1 HP balance
Critical hits 1.1 Torpedos
Damage assessment
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_5_ byTheBeast
MCCD_1.04
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
FXU_0_0_22_Ship zon Files
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
TDW_Ship_Inertia_1_1_0
IRAI_0_0_41_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_41_Inertia_Damage
IO_StrategicMap_7_4_2_for_TDWv742
Equip_Upgrade_Dates_Chart
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.5
OH II v2.5 Flag_Wind_Patch
OH II v2.5 Grid Request fix Patch SH5
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.7 by vdr1981_Main mod
R.S.D. v5.7 - Indestructible UZO patch
R.S.D. & R.E.M. - GHG Hydrophone add-on (no hyd on surface)
MQK Gradient_IO
MQK LocationMaps_IO
MQK ShapeTextures_NO
WHF-FUC_We Have Flooding-Flooding Under Control_Fix
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v4_0_SH3
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
AMMO_v1.0_SH5_by_Raven_2012

Also have the TDW patcher and option file editor viewer as well. Is it a miss loaded mod?

[THEBERBSTER]

BRF and New UI 7-4-2 is not compatible.

BRF is an old mod and it is quite likely that it may not be compatible with some of your other mods as well.

[silverdragon41]

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

BRF and New UI 7-4-2 is not compatible.

BRF is an old mod and it is quite likely that it may not be compatible with some of your other mods as well.

Really? Hmm just curious to why they not compatible when brf deals with how the ai ships sink and can be sunk by flooding where the ui is hud stuff. Thou most likely I am not seeing what would cause it. So any suggestions to a mod that could replace BRF? If any?

Not one to like having to sink the ships by draining their hp. But trying it without BRF installed to see if that did the trick.

P.S. Did not work still CTD. But seems those its only the single missions made by other users that ctd. The single missions that came with the game work fine as far as I can tell. NVM it ctd about halfway into the mission. Right about as some ships were going to be near. So next time when I have time going to be going through the mods one by one to find the problem. Adding the mods one at a time.

Also can someone answer me this I am sure it has been ask before. But what is up with the two bars on the ships after they are hit by a torpedo? I knw they are the health bars but what does they represent in game? I know one is hp but what is the other for?

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Silverdragon

You are using the 2 following mods

FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith

FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)

FX Update for SH5 by TheDarkWraith

version 0.0.22

From the document readme

Quote > WARNING: NO VERSION OF BARF CAN BE USED WITH THIS MOD! DOING SO WILL RESULT IN RENDERING THIS MOD INEFFECTIVE AND POSSIBLE CTDS

Peter

[silverdragon41]

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Hi Silverdragon

You are using the 2 following mods

FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith

FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)

FX Update for SH5 by TheDarkWraith

version 0.0.22

From the document readme

Quote > WARNING: NO VERSION OF BARF CAN BE USED WITH THIS MOD! DOING SO WILL RESULT IN RENDERING THIS MOD INEFFECTIVE AND POSSIBLE CTDS

Peter

Ah so that what he meant. Maybe he should have left the a off so it fits the mod brf better. Was wondering what mod barf was. Unfortuenly not putting the brf mod in It still causes ctd so their is another mod at fault as well. So trying to find the other mod causing trouble.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi silverdragon

Most likely cause could be this mod

Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith

Also not sure about this one?

IRAI_0_0_41_Inertia_Damage

You could do with updating 7-4-2 to 7-5-0 so that you can use sjizzles's MarineQuadrat Charts for NewUi's v.0.00.2 mod map overlay on the Kriegsmarine grid map.

7-5-0 allows you to stretch sizzles mod over the grid 7-4-2- does not.

At present you cannot use the full grid map only the first two i.e AM95

I will come back later on with a different mod list order for you to try.

I think you also need Manos Scope Patch for your resolution!

Peter

[silverdragon41]

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Hi silverdragon

Most likely cause could be this mod

Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith

Also not sure about this one?

IRAI_0_0_41_Inertia_Damage

You could do with updating 7-4-2 to 7-5-0 so that you can use sjizzles's MarineQuadrat Charts for NewUi's v.0.00.2 mod map overlay on the Kriegsmarine grid map.

7-5-0 allows you to stretch sizzles mod over the grid 7-4-2- does not.

At present you cannot use the full grid map only the first two i.e AM95

I will come back later on with a different mod list order for you to try.

I think you also need Manos Scope Patch for your resolution!

Peter

No those mods are just fine. They both work and the game plays fine with them. Currently at the point of installing R.E.M to see if its the cause. Just been placing each mod in with the others till the problem and then leave it out and put the rest in to see if anymore problems happen then after that put that single mod in and see if it does it by itself.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi silverdragon

Mod list revised order

SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_5_ byTheBeast

MCCD_1.04 > replace this mod with
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt faces

MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Stock faces

You can choose alternative faces from Folder’s 2,3,4, or 5

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1572

MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible

You only need the 5th Folder from the above mod

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1671

FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
FXU_0_0_22_Ship zon Files

NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
IO_StrategicMap_7_4_2_for_TDWv742


Alternative updated mod
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith test version 18

The Folder called Mods contains 15 mods.

Any additional mods go behind the Base Folder.

Base Mod in Folder 3

NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Alt_Officer_Wounded_By_Torpedo

In Folder 2

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2234880&postcount=11363

Manos Scopes – patch for 16x9 < for wide screen monitors)

Mod has choices of different resolutions

Needed for both 7-4-2 and 7-5-0 versions

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=179068

IRAI_0_0_41_ByTheDarkWraith


Sjizzle's - MarineQuadrat Charts for NewUIs v. 0.00.2

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=204617


Equip_Upgrade_Dates_Chart

R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2

Do not use this mod below as you are using the RSD version
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible

OPEN HORIZONS II v2.5


New fix mod recommended
sobers OH2.5 Kiel Lite mod v4 SH5

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=4511

OH II v2.5 Flag_Wind_Patch
OH II v2.5 Grid Request fix Patch SH5
Critical hits 1.1 Torpedos
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.7 by vdr1981_Main mod
R.S.D. v5.7 - Indestructible UZO patch
R.S.D. & R.E.M. - GHG Hydrophone add-on (no hyd on surface)
MQK Gradient_IO
MQK LocationMaps_IO
MQK ShapeTextures_NO
WHF-FUC_We Have Flooding-Flooding Under Control_Fix

Recommended annoying fix mod
Shallow Waters Voice Be Gone

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=213972


AMMO_v1.0_SH5_by_Raven_2012


Mods not included in the revised list
BRF 1.3 full
BRF 1.1 HP balance
BARF related mod
Damage assessment

TDW_Ship_Inertia_1_1_0

IRAI_0_0_41_Inertia_Damage

Sh3 mod not SH5
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v4_0_SH3

Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith


Check out my tutorial post #35 for mod order.

Check out my tutorial post #38 for download links.

There are other mods you may wish to add.

Peter

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi silverdragon

Put this mod last if you are sure of it

Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith

Peter

[silverdragon41]

Ok. Also found the TDW depth disturbance for sh5. Didn't see the thing to the side that list what thread it was in. So should it be put in last as well?
figures. Found the problem mod for historical missions. Seems can do historical missions with OH II v2.5 installed.

[THEBERBSTER]

If in doubt put it last and see if, or, what it wants to overwrite.

[silverdragon41]

Interesting. Did as you said and activate it last and it seems to want to overwrite the zones.cfg from the fx update but that did it normally but also the zone cfg for rsd.

Well Here my new load order:
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_5_ byTheBeast
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Stock faces
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
FXU_0_0_22_Ship zon Files
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
IO_StrategicMap_7_5_0_for_TDWv750
Manos Scopes-Core Files
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
IRAI_0_0_41_ByTheDarkWraith
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 2_07.06.2013
Sjizzle's - MarineQuadrat Charts for NewUIs v. 0.00.2
Equip_Upgrade_Dates_Chart
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.5
OH II v2.5 Flag_Wind_Patch
OH II v2.5 Grid Request fix Patch SH5
Critical hits 1.1 Torpedos
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.7 by vdr1981_Main mod
R.S.D. v5.7 - Indestructible UZO patch
R.S.D. & R.E.M. - GHG Hydrophone add-on (no hyd on surface)
MQK ShapeTextures_NO
WHF-FUC_We Have Flooding-Flooding Under Control_Fix
AMMO_v1.0_SH5_by_Raven_2012
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith

It works thou can still ctd when overloaded with explosions I think. XP

[THEBERBSTER]

The problem you can have if you have more than one mod that has to use the same file/s then you will get ctd's.

It is knowing what you can do and more importantly knowing what you cannot do that makes the difference.

This is why knowing the mod order is important.

When you look at Sobers mod list, Sjizzles, TWOS, then these are tried and tested.

Unfortunately when you do your own thing you can just end up getting frustrated with it all and getting know where.

I know from previous posts that Sub Exhaust can be a problem.

[silverdragon41]

Well the game works again. With sub exhaust. But going to take it out regardless as I see no exhaust on the sub's anyways. Seems something in it not working right but not causing the ctd. The cause of the ctd was Tdw's inertia mod not wanting to work with oh II. Also same with tdw DC disturbance mod.

[THEBERBSTER]

I have to admit I am not surprised as I have seen other posts a long time ago where the IRAI inertia was giving problems.

You have done well to isolate your problem quickly.

You often see people with large mod lists give up on SH5 because they get frustrated with ctd's and do not take the time or have the discipline to remove mods, test and then re-enable.

It is a good idea to see what other mod lists are being used.

Depending on your UI it would be worth looking at sobers, Sjizzle's and TWOS.

These are tried and tested mod lists and also the posts are worth subscribing to so you can follow any developments they happen.