S-18 or Porpoise Class

DavyJonesFootlocker · 01-03-08, 07:54 AM

I was wondering if it would be historically correct to start off with a Porpoise-Class or an S-18 class sub at the beginning of a campaign for the Asiatic area? I had used the S-18 already and wanted to try out the Porpoise.

AVGWarhawk · 01-03-08, 08:29 AM

http://www.ozatwar.com/usnavy/freman...marinebase.htm

Just a short overview of the Asiatic Fleet.

Porpoise is fine. They were there. I like the S class and enjoy working the 'pig boat' until I get a new command of the fleet boat! Lots of fun and sense of accomplishment!

ReallyDedPoet · 01-03-08, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker

I was wondering if it would be historically correct to start off with a Porpoise-Class or an S-18 class sub at the beginning of a campaign for the Asiatic area? I had used the S-18 already and wanted to try out the Porpoise.

Check out this great thread by Ducimus for some great history regarding the Pacific Theatre: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185

RDP

DavyJonesFootlocker · 01-03-08, 09:08 AM

Great read guys. One other thing, during my older campaigns when I had sailed the S-18 and was awarded command of a new Porpoise, the crew was insufficient. I thought the game would have enlisted the right amount of crew to man the boat. I had to use my renown points to get enough crew. Is this normal? Sorry for all the questions. I don't have internet at home. Only in the office and sometimes not enough time to make a search for info.

ReallyDedPoet · 01-03-08, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker

Great read guys. One other thing, during my older campaigns when I had sailed the S-18 and was awarded command of a new Porpoise, the crew was insufficient. I thought the game would have enlisted the right amount of crew to man the boat. I had to use my renown points to get enough crew. Is this normal? Sorry for all the questions. I don't have internet at home. Only in the office and sometimes not enough time to make a search for info.

I think this is normal DJF, bigger boat means you are going to have to recruit additional crew to man it

RDP

DavyJonesFootlocker · 01-03-08, 09:17 AM

Ok, thanks m8. Same goes for the rest.

jdkbph · 01-03-08, 10:08 AM

Is this possible... being upgraded from S boat to something other than a Gato or Balao?

Every new command I've ever been offered has been one of those two, depending on the time frame.

JD

DavyJonesFootlocker · 01-03-08, 11:42 AM

That's right got a message in the office asking if I wanted to upgrade to a new class of boat or remain with the old hunk of junk. It was early 1942 when I had finished my second patrol in the S-18. Mind you this campaign was played without mods so that means it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I got the Porpoise class sub. Then I got bored having an easy time with targets so I installed the realistic mods.

01-03-08, 07:25 PM

If you wanna play relialistic, I think you should go for the P - sub right away. The career patrols in SH4 are made for the fleetboats, to long in distance for S - subs. If your fuel gonna last in the Sugarboat, then you end up at 2/3, doing 5 knots for 2 months or more. By that time the crew have starting eating their leather boots.

AVGWarhawk · 01-03-08, 09:02 PM

If I wish to play the S I start in the Asiatic Fleet. Plenty of fuel to get several missions done. I just completed my first patrol with the S and did 5 missions before my torps were depleated. I motored on down to Java for refit. Off again to some choke point somewhere

If I start the war at Pearl, I use the Porpoise Class.

DavyJonesFootlocker · 01-04-08, 08:34 AM

I did the same thing like AVGWarhawk. I ended up in Saigon harbour where I found so many stationary ships. The S-18 is best used for 'up close and personal' encounters. So I picked them off one by one until all torps were gone. I do not intercept fast moving Task Force ships. The S-18 is mighty slow. So I get targets by sneaking into harbours and get targets.

Orffen · 02-19-08, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker

Great read guys. One other thing, during my older campaigns when I had sailed the S-18 and was awarded command of a new Porpoise, the crew was insufficient. I thought the game would have enlisted the right amount of crew to man the boat. I had to use my renown points to get enough crew. Is this normal? Sorry for all the questions. I don't have internet at home. Only in the office and sometimes not enough time to make a search for info.

I had this problem too, and ran my Porpoise with insufficient crew until I realised that you can recruit the seamen with no skills for 0 renown (at least in stock game - sort by skill and head to the bottom of the list). This was back when I had just started out, was playing on easy easy mode and heading back to base after accomplishing a single objective - didn't even realise that if I radioed my status I'd get a new one.

CaptainRamius · 05-15-14, 06:48 PM

I'm pretty sure that the S-18 would be a better choice if you went for the realism.
If you wanted to just have fun, pick the Porpoise or higher.
All subs have the same interior, I think,and even though the sub doesn't matter,
The slower the sub, the more time it takes and therefore, more realism.
That's what I think.

CAPTAIN RAMIUS
Always ready to leave the navy!

pabbi · 05-17-14, 01:33 PM

"I had this problem too, and ran my Porpoise with insufficient crew until I realised that you can recruit the seamen with no skills for 0 renown"

You can always recruit seamen with no skills for 0 renown, mod or no mod.

Rammstein0991 · 05-17-14, 09:15 PM

Porpoise is good, I also like the Sargo too tbh,

01-03-08, 07:54 AM	#1
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	S-18 or Porpoise Class I was wondering if it would be historically correct to start off with a Porpoise-Class or an S-18 class sub at the beginning of a campaign for the Asiatic area? I had used the S-18 already and wanted to try out the Porpoise.

01-03-08, 08:29 AM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,274 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	http://www.ozatwar.com/usnavy/freman...marinebase.htm Just a short overview of the Asiatic Fleet. Porpoise is fine. They were there. I like the S class and enjoy working the 'pig boat' until I get a new command of the fleet boat! Lots of fun and sense of accomplishment! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-03-08, 09:02 PM	#10
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,274 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	If I wish to play the S I start in the Asiatic Fleet. Plenty of fuel to get several missions done. I just completed my first patrol with the S and did 5 missions before my torps were depleated. I motored on down to Java for refit. Off again to some choke point somewhere If I start the war at Pearl, I use the Porpoise Class. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-17-14, 01:33 PM	#14
pabbi Subsim Overlord Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: On the top of the world Posts: 215 Downloads: 454 Uploads: 0	"I had this problem too, and ran my Porpoise with insufficient crew until I realised that you can recruit the seamen with no skills for 0 renown" You can always recruit seamen with no skills for 0 renown, mod or no mod. __________________ On the top of the world

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01-03-08, 09:08 AM	#4
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Great read guys. One other thing, during my older campaigns when I had sailed the S-18 and was awarded command of a new Porpoise, the crew was insufficient. I thought the game would have enlisted the right amount of crew to man the boat. I had to use my renown points to get enough crew. Is this normal? Sorry for all the questions. I don't have internet at home. Only in the office and sometimes not enough time to make a search for info.

01-03-08, 09:17 AM	#6
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Ok, thanks m8. Same goes for the rest.

01-03-08, 10:08 AM	#7
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Is this possible... being upgraded from S boat to something other than a Gato or Balao? Every new command I've ever been offered has been one of those two, depending on the time frame. JD

01-03-08, 11:42 AM	#8
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	That's right got a message in the office asking if I wanted to upgrade to a new class of boat or remain with the old hunk of junk. It was early 1942 when I had finished my second patrol in the S-18. Mind you this campaign was played without mods so that means it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I got the Porpoise class sub. Then I got bored having an easy time with targets so I installed the realistic mods.

01-03-08, 07:25 PM	#9
SS-18rider Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If you wanna play relialistic, I think you should go for the P - sub right away. The career patrols in SH4 are made for the fleetboats, to long in distance for S - subs. If your fuel gonna last in the Sugarboat, then you end up at 2/3, doing 5 knots for 2 months or more. By that time the crew have starting eating their leather boots.

01-04-08, 08:34 AM	#11
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	I did the same thing like AVGWarhawk. I ended up in Saigon harbour where I found so many stationary ships. The S-18 is best used for 'up close and personal' encounters. So I picked them off one by one until all torps were gone. I do not intercept fast moving Task Force ships. The S-18 is mighty slow. So I get targets by sneaking into harbours and get targets.

05-15-14, 06:48 PM	#13
CaptainRamius Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2014 Location: In shallow waters Posts: 388 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'm pretty sure that the S-18 would be a better choice if you went for the realism. If you wanted to just have fun, pick the Porpoise or higher. All subs have the same interior, I think,and even though the sub doesn't matter, The slower the sub, the more time it takes and therefore, more realism. That's what I think. CAPTAIN RAMIUS Always ready to leave the navy!

05-17-14, 09:15 PM	#15
Rammstein0991 Engineer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: NC USA Posts: 219 Downloads: 164 Uploads: 0	Porpoise is good, I also like the Sargo too tbh,