What next for Putin?

Herr-Berbunch · 03-31-14, 08:58 AM

Finland?

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Finland is not a Nato member, meaning a Russian invasion would not be considered an attack against the alliance. The commander of the Finnish air force has said it has increased surveillance operations over the Baltic Sea in recent weeks.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-9224273.html

One thing I have noticed is the BBC newsreaders' pronunciation of Putin - before the Ukraine thing it was Pew-tin, now they all say Poo-tin.

Let's hope it's just some wild speculation from a not-very-important 'advisor'!

Dread Knot · 03-31-14, 09:15 AM

You keep hearing how Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Union. Taking Finland is rebuilding the Russian Empire. Considering the hell Ivan went through in just reacquiring parts of Finland in the 1940s, I wouldn't think interest would be strong on that front again.

Wolferz · 03-31-14, 09:41 AM

A Crimean vacation.

Skybird · 03-31-14, 10:11 AM

Andrej Illarionov, if you google the name, you find some interesting detail about him, he certainly is no lunatic , but also, he obviously has a strong personal issue with Putin. Listen to him, he does not seem to deserve to be ignored - but take him with a grain of salt.

I see little signs, or none, that the Russians start to retake Finland.

German finance minister Schäuble yesterday compared Putin to Hitler. That was so very clever, since Schäuble is too high in political callibre as if Moscow can just ignore that. This useless comment will backfire against German investors in Russia, bet on it. Hope he enjoyed the seconds-long relief - it will cost others dearly.

Jimbuna · 03-31-14, 11:34 AM

I doubt Russia would have as much trouble taking Finland as they did in 39/40.

The burning question must be...if Russia does invade, what will the west do about it?

BossMark · 03-31-14, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The burning question must be...if Russia does invade, what will the west do about it?

Nothing much the UK could about it as we have only few 1000 regular soldiers thanks to a certain party...............

Admiral Halsey · 03-31-14, 12:21 PM

If he tries to invade anyone going after Eastern Ukraine is still the best bet. Only reason I could see him going after Finland is to make sure that the Karelian Isthmus is better protected.

Jimbuna · 03-31-14, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark

Nothing much the UK could about it as we have only few 1000 regular soldiers thanks to a certain party...............

I doubt it would be a boots on the ground campaign but more of an air and sea strike campaign (UK wise).

Worst case scenario of course.

Herr-Berbunch · 03-31-14, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark

Nothing much the UK could about it as we have only few 1000 regular soldiers thanks to a certain party...............

I read somewhere today that ever-neutral Switzerland has more MBTs than we do.

Susexx · 03-31-14, 02:23 PM

Do not go crazy! Better look at the neo-Nazis in the Ukraine and in any legalization of homosexuals and pedophiles in Europe. Is this normal? And Europe is afraid of Russian late, had to fear in the Soviet Union.

eddie · 03-31-14, 02:33 PM

Its just sabre rattling is all!

Dread Knot · 03-31-14, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

Its just sabre rattling is all!

Indeed. I heard Obama and Putin had a conversation this weekend, and as always I'm sure it went well.

AVGWarhawk · 03-31-14, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The burning question must be...if Russia does invade, what will the west do about it?

Shake a big stick!

nikimcbee · 03-31-14, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot

Indeed. I heard Obama and Putin had a conversation this weekend, and as always I'm sure it went well.

This.

He's not doing Finland, unless it's some sort of Red Storm Rising scenario.

Plus, those ferrets are pretty tough, so I wouldn't mess with them. Perkele!

Admiral Halsey · 03-31-14, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I read somewhere today that ever-neutral Switzerland has more MBTs than we do.

Of course they would, after all "Those who do not want war must have the means to make do so".

03-31-14, 09:41 AM	#3
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	A Crimean vacation. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

03-31-14, 10:11 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,603 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Andrej Illarionov, if you google the name, you find some interesting detail about him, he certainly is no lunatic , but also, he obviously has a strong personal issue with Putin. Listen to him, he does not seem to deserve to be ignored - but take him with a grain of salt. I see little signs, or none, that the Russians start to retake Finland. German finance minister Schäuble yesterday compared Putin to Hitler. That was so very clever, since Schäuble is too high in political callibre as if Moscow can just ignore that. This useless comment will backfire against German investors in Russia, bet on it. Hope he enjoyed the seconds-long relief - it will cost others dearly. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I doubt Russia would have as much trouble taking Finland as they did in 39/40. The burning question must be...if Russia does invade, what will the west do about it? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Its just sabre rattling is all! __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

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03-31-14, 09:15 AM	#2
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	You keep hearing how Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Union. Taking Finland is rebuilding the Russian Empire. Considering the hell Ivan went through in just reacquiring parts of Finland in the 1940s, I wouldn't think interest would be strong on that front again.

03-31-14, 12:21 PM	#7
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 317 Uploads: 0	If he tries to invade anyone going after Eastern Ukraine is still the best bet. Only reason I could see him going after Finland is to make sure that the Karelian Isthmus is better protected.

03-31-14, 02:23 PM	#10
Susexx Planesman Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S.Peterburg, Russia Posts: 189 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Do not go crazy! Better look at the neo-Nazis in the Ukraine and in any legalization of homosexuals and pedophiles in Europe. Is this normal? And Europe is afraid of Russian late, had to fear in the Soviet Union.