"Affluenza" as a DUI defense...

vienna · 12-12-13, 03:28 PM

They should have charged him with murder and dealt with him "Texas Style"

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http://www.ajc.com/news/news/nationa...-deaths/ncJXL/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...texas/3999487/

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/12/...ving-accident/

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Buddahaid · 12-12-13, 04:07 PM

I smell a payoff. This is disgusting to say the least.

Jimbuna · 12-12-13, 04:33 PM

Sadly, money still speaks louder than everything else in some instances.

GoldenRivet · 12-12-13, 05:23 PM

shameful.

eddie · 12-12-13, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Sadly, money still speaks louder than everything else in some instances.

Especially in court!

Bubblehead1980 · 12-12-13, 05:51 PM

Terrible incident but a creative defense and it worked.Also, what good would have been accomplished by sending a teenager to prison? This guy had no intent to kill, he made a mistake and will pay for it, but sending him to prison will do nothing but satisfy the natural urge for revenge, which is one reason the recidivism rate is so high in this country, we focus too much on punishment and revenge, instead of rehabilitation .Sure, it sounds bleeding heart but it makes sense because what are doing and have been, revenge/punishment, has not worked.

Bravo to the attorney for doing his job well

August · 12-12-13, 06:02 PM

I guess if money caused this problem maybe taking all of it away from him and his parents via civil suit is the best thing to do.

Buddahaid · 12-12-13, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Terrible incident but a creative defense and it worked.Also, what good would have been accomplished by sending a teenager to prison? This guy had no intent to kill, he made a mistake and will pay for it, but sending him to prison will do nothing but satisfy the natural urge for revenge, which is one reason the recidivism rate is so high in this country, we focus too much on punishment and revenge, instead of rehabilitation .Sure, it sounds bleeding heart but it makes sense because what are doing and have been, revenge/punishment, has not worked.

Bravo to the attorney for doing his job well

Four dead and a slap on the wrist. Just what is being paid for?

Tchocky · 12-12-13, 06:15 PM

Bravo

Bubblehead1980 · 12-12-13, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Four dead and a slap on the wrist. Just what is being paid for?

Ten years of probation is no slap on the wrist and I am sure if he screws up, he will be violated pretty fast.Living under the thumb of a probation officer for a decade, can not imagine that.I am sure no alcohol is part his probation.I am sure he will, especially once off in college and will likely get caught. I have not lived under probation but heard stories and seen it, I shadowed a probation officer for a week in college, she was tough, esp when ti came to those on felony probation.Not the joke everyone thinks it is.

CaptainHaplo · 12-12-13, 07:08 PM

4 people are dead because of his idiocy.

If it was a kid that age whose parents were making 50k between them and living paycheck to paycheck - do you think that he would have gotten the same outcome?

You can't say he would. Thus - blind lady justice wasn't so blind - therefore the system didn't work.

Equal punishment for equal crime. While the defense may have been "creative" - the outcome is a travesty of justice.

Bubblehead1980 · 12-12-13, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

4 people are dead because of his idiocy.

If it was a kid that age whose parents were making 50k between them and living paycheck to paycheck - do you think that he would have gotten the same outcome?

You can't say he would. Thus - blind lady justice wasn't so blind - therefore the system didn't work.

Equal punishment for equal crime. While the defense may have been "creative" - the outcome is a travesty of justice.

Depends on his lawyer, if they managed to get him a good one and not a public pretender etc, possible. No evidence to suggest Judge was paid off and went easy because kid comes from a well off family. Not a travesty of justice, kid made a stupid, costly mistake and will pay for it with a decade of his life under the thumb of a PO.

Buddahaid · 12-12-13, 07:48 PM

At least he has a life still. I feel so sorry for him.

12-12-13, 08:31 PM

Drunk drivers

TarJak · 12-12-13, 08:36 PM

I hope that the deaths he caused haunt him for the rest of his life.

The damage he has caused cannot be repaired but the sentence seems to have been very lenient no matter how tough his probation officers are.

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	I smell a payoff. This is disgusting to say the least. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Sadly, money still speaks louder than everything else in some instances. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	shameful. __________________

12-12-13, 05:51 PM	#6
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,103 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Terrible incident but a creative defense and it worked.Also, what good would have been accomplished by sending a teenager to prison? This guy had no intent to kill, he made a mistake and will pay for it, but sending him to prison will do nothing but satisfy the natural urge for revenge, which is one reason the recidivism rate is so high in this country, we focus too much on punishment and revenge, instead of rehabilitation .Sure, it sounds bleeding heart but it makes sense because what are doing and have been, revenge/punishment, has not worked. Bravo to the attorney for doing his job well Last edited by Bubblehead1980; 12-12-13 at 06:06 PM.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I guess if money caused this problem maybe taking all of it away from him and his parents via civil suit is the best thing to do. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Bravo __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	4 people are dead because of his idiocy. If it was a kid that age whose parents were making 50k between them and living paycheck to paycheck - do you think that he would have gotten the same outcome? You can't say he would. Thus - blind lady justice wasn't so blind - therefore the system didn't work. Equal punishment for equal crime. While the defense may have been "creative" - the outcome is a travesty of justice. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	At least he has a life still. I feel so sorry for him. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Drunk drivers

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I hope that the deaths he caused haunt him for the rest of his life. The damage he has caused cannot be repaired but the sentence seems to have been very lenient no matter how tough his probation officers are.

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