Do bays always have calm seas?

maillemaker · 06-14-13, 12:39 PM

I only pull in exterior reserve torpedoes if the sea is calm enough to man the deck gun.

Of course, in SH3 it seems it is always storming.

So often I will pilot my sub into a bay, like where a resupply ship is, and invariably the sea is always calm there, even if the skies are stormy.

Is this always true in the game?

If I can't find calm seas at sea I just motor into a friendly/neutral bay, pull in the torpedoes, and then continue the mission.

Steve

Sailor Steve · 06-14-13, 04:46 PM

Really? I don't recall ever seeing that. In fact one of my biggest complaints in all SH games is the rough water inside harbors. Ships collide with docks and catch on fire, or end up halfway out of the dock rocking back and forth. Water inside an open bay might still be somewhat rough, but "safe harbor" is a term with meaning behind it. I need to find these bays.

desertstriker · 06-15-13, 02:08 AM

I recall rough waters on some of my harbor raids mind you they are enemy harbors. will check this out next time I am out on patrol

LGN1 · 06-15-13, 04:04 AM

IIRC, close to land the windspeed always drops to 6m/s

I have never seen 15m/s in a harbor.

Regards, LGN1

Luno · 06-15-13, 06:14 PM

I too have never had high winds in a harbor. I thought it was intentional to simulate the effects of the breakwaters, etc. without actual current physics in the game.

Furthermore, while long periods of storminess are possible (and should be), I have had several patrols which resulted in the weather improving after the bad stints.

If you haven't, try the H.sie patch. It restricts external torpedo loading to good weather, and adds a delay to your dive, simulating putting the torpedo back in its place, or at least just tossing it overboard.

maillemaker · 06-17-13, 08:57 AM

Hey Luno, I like that patch idea forcing a delay on dive. I assume it only happens when you are pulling in external torpedoes?

I have confirmed now several times I have been in the mouth to Gibraltar with stormy weather and all internal torps depleted, and I pull into the bay where Thalia is stationed and the sea is calm enough again for deck gun use. The sky may still be stormy but the sea is calm enough for the deck gun.

I only pull in the external fish if the seas are calm enough for the deck gun. I also only store steamers in the external stores, as they did in real life.

Steve

06-14-13, 12:39 PM	#1
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Do bays always have calm seas? I only pull in exterior reserve torpedoes if the sea is calm enough to man the deck gun. Of course, in SH3 it seems it is always storming. So often I will pilot my sub into a bay, like where a resupply ship is, and invariably the sea is always calm there, even if the skies are stormy. Is this always true in the game? If I can't find calm seas at sea I just motor into a friendly/neutral bay, pull in the torpedoes, and then continue the mission. Steve

06-14-13, 04:46 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Really? I don't recall ever seeing that. In fact one of my biggest complaints in all SH games is the rough water inside harbors. Ships collide with docks and catch on fire, or end up halfway out of the dock rocking back and forth. Water inside an open bay might still be somewhat rough, but "safe harbor" is a term with meaning behind it. I need to find these bays. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-15-13, 06:14 PM	#5
Luno Ensign Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 234 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	I too have never had high winds in a harbor. I thought it was intentional to simulate the effects of the breakwaters, etc. without actual current physics in the game. Furthermore, while long periods of storminess are possible (and should be), I have had several patrols which resulted in the weather improving after the bad stints. If you haven't, try the H.sie patch. It restricts external torpedo loading to good weather, and adds a delay to your dive, simulating putting the torpedo back in its place, or at least just tossing it overboard. __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost.

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06-15-13, 02:08 AM	#3
desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	I recall rough waters on some of my harbor raids mind you they are enemy harbors. will check this out next time I am out on patrol

06-15-13, 04:04 AM	#4
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	IIRC, close to land the windspeed always drops to 6m/s I have never seen 15m/s in a harbor. Regards, LGN1

06-17-13, 08:57 AM	#6
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Hey Luno, I like that patch idea forcing a delay on dive. I assume it only happens when you are pulling in external torpedoes? I have confirmed now several times I have been in the mouth to Gibraltar with stormy weather and all internal torps depleted, and I pull into the bay where Thalia is stationed and the sea is calm enough again for deck gun use. The sky may still be stormy but the sea is calm enough for the deck gun. I only pull in the external fish if the seas are calm enough for the deck gun. I also only store steamers in the external stores, as they did in real life. Steve