The twenty dollar Big Mac

[yubba]

http://inplainsight.nbcnews.com/_new...ot-enough?lite workers at fast food joints say they want 15 dollars an hour, so much for the dollar menu, you not happy, get a haircut and get a real job that will pay 15 dollars an hour, not happy with the price of living take it up with the government, they caused this mess. now I'm hungry, so goes the twinkey so might go the dollar whopper jr..

[Wolferz]

That's what happens when college grads are forced to go to work at Mickey D's and Burger King. The article only mentioned in passing the other problem of fast food chains. Most only employ part time workers. Their management probably banks on school age kids and semi retired individuals looking for a boost in their earnings, coupled with their Social Security. The retired crowd can do this but, the young'uns, no way. I have news for them. Fast food is not an ideal career choice.
Most full time jobs got shipped overseas for workers willing to work for peanuts or live on a company campus.

I wish those workers great luck in getting what they want but, like the unions, they may be bargaining themselves right out of a job altogether.

[em2nought]

Your average american isn't worth $15 an hour.

[Feuer Frei!]

Even if they did charge $20 for a Big Mac, i doubt the increase in profits would go towards a pay rise.
I could be wrong. But i doubt it.

[August]

Originally Posted by em2nought

Your average american isn't worth $15 an hour.

I must be above average then.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by em2nought

Your average american isn't worth $15 an hour.

Well, people seem to think that they aren't even worth $8.78 p/hr. To me that isn't funny. Especially when people try to survive any way they can.
Sure, it's easy to fob that off and say: get a real job, go out and get a job that pays double that, with society's ever-present pigeon-holing and the fear and often very real continuous knock-backs from applying for those double-the-money jobs.
Depression sets in, the fear of failure, self-doubt, etc etc.
I'm not directing that at you em2nought, just really irks me when ignorant comments like that are made in relation to get a hair cut, get a job.
Newsflash: it ain't that easy.

[CaptainHaplo]

The thing is, how many of the people complaining - like the guy wanting a job in one of the "office buildings" - has the qualifications to get that job on his or her own skills and merit?

Ultimately, might as well just do what this spoof suggests.... pass the Americans with No Abilities Act.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/con...ities-act,541/

So you have a degree? In what? Uhm... Pottery, did you say? And you want to work here, at UBS, as an investment analyst........

Hello, I see you have a degree in African American studies. How will that help you fulfill your duties here at Quantum Networks as a purchasing agent?

Fast food joints are great for retirees and high school kids. If college graduates expect to find a good job upon leaving college, they need to select a field that has demand, not just one they like or that they can skate through.

There is a reason that one old joke goes:

I majored in liberal arts.... now do you want fries with that?

[August]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

If college graduates expect to find a good job upon leaving college, they need to select a field that has demand, not just one they like or that they can skate through.

There is a reason that one old joke goes:

I majored in liberal arts.... now do you want fries with that?

Exactly. We as a society value a diploma over the subject it represents then we wonder why the precious little snowflakes can't get a decent paying job from it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Captianhaplo:

Fast food joints are great for retirees and high school kids. If college graduates expect to find a good job upon leaving college, they need to select a field that has demand, not just one they like or that they can skate through.

I agree on the retirees and HS kids for fast food joint. But, a BS is required by most jobs that pay muster. It does not matter what the BS is for. I have a BS in Criminal Justice. I work in transportation. It is not always about a field of high demand however, law enforcement, medicine and education are a few fields in demand. Art History not so much.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Well, people seem to think that they aren't even worth $8.78 p/hr. To me that isn't funny. Especially when people try to survive any way they can.
Sure, it's easy to fob that off and say: get a real job, go out and get a job that pays double that, with society's ever-present pigeon-holing and the fear and often very real continuous knock-backs from applying for those double-the-money jobs.
Depression sets in, the fear of failure, self-doubt, etc etc.
I'm not directing that at you em2nought, just really irks me when ignorant comments like that are made in relation to get a hair cut, get a job.
Newsflash: it ain't that easy.

No, it is not always that easy. Agreed 100%. I overcame it by getting a second night job working a dock moving freight.

[HundertzehnGustav]

one of the reasons i do not go there any more.
Vote wioth your wallet, and the bottom line is for e i rather eat something different, served(prepared, transported...) by people that get a proper pay.

[Feuer Frei!]

Well, unfortunately that will not solve the issue at hand though.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Well, unfortunately that will not solve the issue at hand though.

What is the issue? It is a minimum wage job and offered as such. A potential candidate for the position can accept or decline.

[Feuer Frei!]

The issue? It's quiete clear what the issue is. A request for a pay increase.
A perfectly just and reasonable request.
What is also an issue is that some people think these are 'special snowflakes' who should maybe just put up and shut up and deal with the crappy minimum wage, or, if they don't like it, get a haircut and get a real job.
So, there is 2 issues here i think.

[HundertzehnGustav]

True that.
If you have a qualification, then McDo and co are not for you.
If you do NOT have a qualification, these places are for you.

No matter what mcDo claims "management " "mcdonalds university" "individual education" and stuff...
A harsh look at things is:
They be flippin burgers.

I would recommend it to students and kids between 16 and 19.

Its long hours of fast, nervous activity, and a thousand stupid customers a day.
But it is among the lowest level of restauration, and when signing up for it, you have to know it must be a temporary measure.

Like living on Fast Food alone is unhealthy, living off a fast food Pay will get you equally washed down the drain.

Do not eat there, do only work there if you do not depend on the job to pay your bills and life.

fast food can not be a way of life.