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Skybird · 11-24-16, 10:42 AM

The end is very nasty.

As I say since years: we are too many. 7 billion now, climbing, is in my estimation 5.5-6 billion too much as if it even would make sense to start speaking of sustainable ecological management.

Oberon · 11-24-16, 11:17 AM

We can take it, but not with the way our current economic systems are set up. There's no real reward for producing extra supply, and there's no real efficient global delivery network. Human populations are all clustered in set places, and in those set places we're spread out with urban sprawl rather than building upward, and those houses themselves are often so expensive that it creates slum areas where only the poor can move to.
We have the emerging technology to improve and increase food output, to decrease our carbon footprint, and to improve our habitation, but no-one wants to because it's too expensive and there's not enough financial reward for it.

Platapus · 11-24-16, 12:52 PM

Nature is doing its best to fix this. New drug resistant diseases are constantly being developed.

The big question is whether nature can develop diseases faster than humans can develop counter measures.

As our population grows and our pollution continues to increase, I think that time is on nature's side.

Humans are doing their part by either choosing not to inoculate children or simply not supplying inoculations to children. This combined with a general reluctance to spend money improving even the most basic health environments helps nature a lot.

I admit that it was looking bad with the advent of stronger antibiotics, but human nature of abusing antibiotics just gives nature the leg up on evolving more and more drug resistant diseases.

The key is to keep humans on this planet. Otherwise another planet's nature will have to take on the task.

Oberon · 11-24-16, 01:43 PM

I think it might balance out at some point, the population growth is starting to level off, and it might even go into decline at some point if other nations following the westernisation trend. Of course that means an elderly population with not enough people to look after them, which is going to be a problem in the future, in fact it's a problem right now but it's only going to get worse.
Wars and pandemics will definitely help reduce the poorer sections of the population though, likewise famines and such.

Jimbuna · 11-25-16, 07:14 AM

Nature will win in the end, unless mankind does her work for her.

Personally speaking, I'm glad I won't be around to witness it.

Rockstar · 11-25-16, 10:29 AM

Some of the reasons I suppose for the push for a global economy and better health care for poorer citizens. Reduces the need to produce more children 'to work the farm' so to speak. Having better health care for poorer citizens also reduces the family's need to produce more children to offset mortality rates.

11-24-16, 10:42 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,609 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Special kind of a horror movie The end is very nasty. As I say since years: we are too many. 7 billion now, climbing, is in my estimation 5.5-6 billion too much as if it even would make sense to start speaking of sustainable ecological management. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-24-16, 12:52 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Nature is doing its best to fix this. New drug resistant diseases are constantly being developed. The big question is whether nature can develop diseases faster than humans can develop counter measures. As our population grows and our pollution continues to increase, I think that time is on nature's side. Humans are doing their part by either choosing not to inoculate children or simply not supplying inoculations to children. This combined with a general reluctance to spend money improving even the most basic health environments helps nature a lot. I admit that it was looking bad with the advent of stronger antibiotics, but human nature of abusing antibiotics just gives nature the leg up on evolving more and more drug resistant diseases. The key is to keep humans on this planet. Otherwise another planet's nature will have to take on the task. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

11-25-16, 07:14 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Nature will win in the end, unless mankind does her work for her. Personally speaking, I'm glad I won't be around to witness it. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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11-24-16, 11:17 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	We can take it, but not with the way our current economic systems are set up. There's no real reward for producing extra supply, and there's no real efficient global delivery network. Human populations are all clustered in set places, and in those set places we're spread out with urban sprawl rather than building upward, and those houses themselves are often so expensive that it creates slum areas where only the poor can move to. We have the emerging technology to improve and increase food output, to decrease our carbon footprint, and to improve our habitation, but no-one wants to because it's too expensive and there's not enough financial reward for it.

11-24-16, 01:43 PM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I think it might balance out at some point, the population growth is starting to level off, and it might even go into decline at some point if other nations following the westernisation trend. Of course that means an elderly population with not enough people to look after them, which is going to be a problem in the future, in fact it's a problem right now but it's only going to get worse. Wars and pandemics will definitely help reduce the poorer sections of the population though, likewise famines and such.

11-25-16, 10:29 AM	#6
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Some of the reasons I suppose for the push for a global economy and better health care for poorer citizens. Reduces the need to produce more children 'to work the farm' so to speak. Having better health care for poorer citizens also reduces the family's need to produce more children to offset mortality rates.