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Old 09-23-12, 02:07 PM   #1
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Egypt’s New Leader Spells Out Terms for U.S.-Arab Ties


President Mohamed Morsi will travel to New York on Sunday for a United Nations meeting.

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CAIRO — On the eve of his first trip to the United States as Egypt’s new Islamist president, Mohamed Morsi said the United States needed to fundamentally change its approach to the Arab world, showing greater respect for its values and helping build a Palestinian state, if it hoped to overcome decades of pent-up anger. A former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood and Egypt’s first democratically elected president, Mr. Morsi sought in a 90-minute interview with The New York Times to introduce himself to the American public and to revise the terms of relations between his country and the United States after the ouster of Hosni Mubarak, an autocratic but reliable ally. He said it was up to Washington to repair relations with the Arab world and to revitalize the alliance with Egypt, long a cornerstone of regional stability.

If Washington is asking Egypt to honor its treaty with Israel, he said, Washington should also live up to its own Camp David commitment to Palestinian self-rule. He said the United States must respect the Arab world’s history and culture, even when that conflicts with Western values.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/wo...me&ref=general

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Old 09-23-12, 02:19 PM   #2
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OK WARHAWKS, MOUNT UP, ANOTHER MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRY TO KILL, WOO HOO!

We got this!

Lets go guys, I am sure we can discover a billion dollar mineral field, and then let them sell it to the Chinese like we did in Afghanistan!

I just applied for a job at Blackwater, and Xe international. The big winners!

Least we can do is keep the resources so many of some of our family members died for. Right? That is what it is about, unless you buy the freedom crap?
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Old 09-24-12, 12:45 AM   #3
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Who cares anymore? if they dont want relations with us, so be it. Theres little reasoning with countries that enforce things like sharia law. With nations that still live in the crusades as far as their social values are concerned. Countries that, to this day, desire to wipe Israel off the map for almost purely religious reasons, yet cry bloody murder when someone insults their religion. With many people who selectively interpret a religion and base a large chunk of their lives on it.

If they want to cut off ties, let them.
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Old 09-24-12, 04:51 AM   #4
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Who cares anymore? if they dont want relations with us, so be it. Theres little reasoning with countries that enforce things like sharia law. With nations that still live in the crusades as far as their social values are concerned. Countries that, to this day, desire to wipe Israel off the map for almost purely religious reasons, yet cry bloody murder when someone insults their religion. With many people who selectively interpret a religion and base a large chunk of their lives on it.

If they want to cut off ties, let them.
They do their own thing, with those relations as they think is necessary, as it has been in the foreseeable future.
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Old 09-24-12, 06:12 AM   #5
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Who cares anymore? if they dont want relations with us, so be it. Theres little reasoning with countries that enforce things like sharia law. With nations that still live in the crusades as far as their social values are concerned. Countries that, to this day, desire to wipe Israel off the map for almost purely religious reasons, yet cry bloody murder when someone insults their religion. With many people who selectively interpret a religion and base a large chunk of their lives on it.

If they want to cut off ties, let them.
That is more or less how I and I suspect a growing number of people in the UK feel.
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Oil seems to be the root of all our international problems.

If the ME was not oil rich we would treat it with the same Who gives a hoot as we do Africa.

I know this sounds socialist, but we need to threaten subsidies on oil companies in order to give us first crack at whatever is drilled here.

Or create a nationalized energy system.

Oh how socialist , but far better than going to war every few years to secure our supply.

Or we can stop being so resistant to nuclear, wind, tidal, hydroelectric power etc..

Alot of these industries would be viable if not interfered with or spun by oil company lobbies, who love the subsidy tit they have here.

And get the tree huggers off nuclear. And fund more research into cold fusion and hybrid reactors.
I like what I see on hybrid reactors, as they are much easier brought under control, as they operate in a subcritical state, It also produces less waste. They can also be used to produce energy from the waste of typical Fission reactors. Meaning we do not have to bury and guard it for a half a million years.

We do have options. Just that those options do not jive with the "job creators" who own our government.
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Oil seems to be the root of all our international problems.

If the ME was not oil rich we would treat it with the same Who gives a hoot as we do Africa.
I would agree.
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Who cares anymore? if they dont want relations with us, so be it. Theres little reasoning with countries that enforce things like sharia law. With nations that still live in the crusades as far as their social values are concerned. Countries that, to this day, desire to wipe Israel off the map for almost purely religious reasons, yet cry bloody murder when someone insults their religion. With many people who selectively interpret a religion and base a large chunk of their lives on it.

If they want to cut off ties, let them.
We can't do that. For good or ill, we have made Israel our chief ally in the region. Since that is the case, it is critical to our the interest of said ally that the new Egyptian government hold true to the terms of the 1979 peace treaty. Since rhetoric from the new government has seemed to place that treaty in danger, our continued diplomatic efforts in Egypt are forced. We simply must treat with them.
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