modsoup causes indigestion (CTDs)

kapitan_zur_see · 09-20-12, 04:18 AM

hi to all!

I thought I'd create a separate topic to gather more minds at work here...

I'm having CTDs on several occasions:

. If I ask weather report to navigator and depth u keel (other things works, like returning to course and Head to view etc.)
. If I click play on gramophone
. Occasional random CTDs, especially on getting closer to ships while using OHII full (on a previous modsoup)

already tried two complete change to my modsoup orders, without better result

Here's the modsoup:

Quote:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[F:\Silent Hunter 5\MODS]

Radio mod
TheBeast Bunker Mechanics Upgrade List image (U-552-Red Devil)
DBSM_Music_1_0_4
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.1 Patch
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 Basemod
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 HOTFIX 3
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional scary creaks
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 additional crew sounds beta6
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional NavMap babelling
TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_74_0
grammo
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_1_2_byTheBeast
NOZAURIO'S SKIN (U-552-Red Devil Emblem) v-1.0.0
Dynamic Environment SH5 Basemod (normal ) V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 BrighterNights V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Atlantic Floor V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Waves (realistic version) V2.1
Dynamic Environmental SH5 Realistic Colors V2.1
sobers best ever fog V12 SH5
KZS Hull wetness for U-Boats + co tower and deck_revised_by_TheDarkWraith
3D_Deck_Splash_FX_v1_0_0_KZS_Compat_byTheBeast
NewUIs_TDC_7_1_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_1_0_No_Snorkel_Exhaust_Smoke
NewUIs_TDC_7_1_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v2.9
IRAI_0_0_37_ByTheDarkWraith
AI_Crew_Damage_Control_Revised_Zones_cfg_Based_On_ FX_Update_By_TheDarkWraith
TDW_Ship_Inertia_1_1_0
TDW_IRAI_Inertia_Damage_Test
OPEN HORIZONS II_base v2
OPEN HORIZONS II_enviro v2
Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3)
personal commands
Crew MEGA-mod (contains MightyFine crew)
Shadow Improvement Mod

Tried OH2 lighter basemod because I experienced a lot of CTDs with full version on a previous similar modsoup, though I don't know whether it really was responsible...

PS: "grammo" is just a custom mod that only contains a bunch of musics, no UI change

for memory issues, my system is on w7(x64), 6gb

Many thanks in advance

Kalleblom · 09-20-12, 04:34 AM

only a little brainstorm.

In your list the TDW patcher is installed before the NewUI. I install the patcher at last and get the info from JSGME that two files are already installed of the NewUI. Maybe there´s an approach.

=TFO=Katarn · 09-20-12, 09:44 AM

I found this,maybe it matters,i dunno

:

INSTALL ORDER:
...
...
KZS Hull wetness for U-Boats + co tower and deck_revised_by_TheDarkWraith
3D_Deck_Splash_FX_v1_0_0_byTheBeast <----------------

3D_Deck_Splash_FX_v1_0_0_KZS_Compat_byTheBeast
...
...

Just like Kalleblom i installed TDW`s patcher at the end.
I myself,because of my bad-english,are a little puzzled about this:
Download additional crew sound`s Beta 6 (include HOTFIX 3): http://subsim.armedassault.eu/Stormy...unds_beta6.rar

Does above mean the fix is already included in that download,or does it mean you have to also include that fix ?

Good luck with your soup KZS

Kalleblom · 09-20-12, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =TFO=Katarn

I myself,because of my bad-english,are a little puzzled about this:
Download additional crew sound`s Beta 6 (include HOTFIX 3): http://subsim.armedassault.eu/Stormy...unds_beta6.rar

Does above mean the fix is already included in that download,or does it mean you have to also include that fix ?

Good luck with your soup KZS

TFO

It means that in this download the hotfix is include. If it´s an extra folder or if it´s include in one mod i don´t know.

=TFO=Katarn · 09-20-12, 09:56 AM

THX!

IF the fix is included in that mod-download then KZS can take that seperate hotfix out of his soup i think.

Kalleblom · 09-20-12, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =TFO=Katarn

THX!

IF the fix is included in that mod-download then KZS can take that seperate hotfix out of his soup i think.

So i´ve checked the download. And it seems that the fix is in the mod included, so no separate folder. In this case you´re right, so KZS can take it out. But i think that wouldn´t solve the problem, because according to the logic the crewsound mod overwrite the files of the hotfix with the indentical files, so doesn´t matter in my view.

=TFO=Katarn · 09-20-12, 10:53 AM

Aye

kapitan_zur_see · 09-20-12, 02:40 PM

new modsoup, still the same problems... gramophone and depth u keel / weather report requests = CTD

Quote:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[F:\Silent Hunter 5\MODS]

Radio mod
TheBeast Bunker Mechanics Upgrade List image (U-552-Red Devil)
DBSM_Music_1_0_4
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.1 Patch
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 Basemod
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 HOTFIX 3
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional scary creaks
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 additional crew sounds beta6
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional NavMap babelling
grammo
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_1_2_byTheBeast
NOZAURIO'S SKIN (U-552-Red Devil Emblem) v-1.0.0
Dynamic Environment SH5 Basemod (normal ) V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 BrighterNights V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Atlantic Floor V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Waves (realistic version) V2.1
Dynamic Environmental SH5 Realistic Colors V2.1
sobers best ever fog V12 SH5
KZS Hull wetness for U-Boats + co tower and deck_revised_by_TheDarkWraith
3D_Deck_Splash_FX_v1_0_0_KZS_Compat_byTheBeast
personal commands
Shadow Improvement Mod
NewUIs_TDC_7_1_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_1_0_No_Snorkel_Exhaust_Smoke
NewUIs_TDC_7_1_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v2.9
Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3)
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbances_v2_0_SH5
IRAI_0_0_37_ByTheDarkWraith
TDW_Ship_Inertia_1_1_0
TDW_IRAI_Inertia_Damage_Test
TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_74_0
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2
Crew MEGA-mod (contains MightyFine crew)
FX_Update_0_0_19_ByTheDarkWraith
Dynamic Environment Undersea (mediterranean) V2.1

I miss my gramo and the echolot...

Kalleblom · 09-20-12, 03:07 PM

Moin KZS,

don't know if ist works, but i few proposals.

For the Equipment try this Order:
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Eqp_Upgrades_fix_v1.4 dates by sober Patch V2

Then, if I remember correctly, you have to put the FX Update before the NewUI and the IRAI after.

The Crew Mod, don't know exactly, but the Mighty Fine most i saw before NewUI.

Water Disturbence don't need when using the actual IRAI 37.

And at least, for what is the Personal Commands mod and be sure it works with the NewUI, don't know if it's better to enable after.

Only ideas and thoughts, no entitlement to be successful

Hope you get it work.

Kalle

Targor Avelany · 09-20-12, 03:08 PM

also move the FX update before UI

kapitan_zur_see · 09-20-12, 07:39 PM

still a no-go...

Quote:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[F:\Silent Hunter 5\MODS]

Radio mod
TheBeast Bunker Mechanics Upgrade List image (U-552-Red Devil)
DBSM_Music_1_0_4
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.1 Patch
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 Basemod
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 HOTFIX 3
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional scary creaks
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 additional crew sounds beta6
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 optional NavMap babelling
grammo
NOZAURIO'S SKIN (U-552-Red Devil Emblem) v-1.0.0
Dynamic Environment SH5 Basemod (normal ) V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 BrighterNights V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Atlantic Floor V2.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Waves (realistic version) V2.1
Dynamic Environment Undersea (mediterranean) V2.1
sobers best ever fog V12 SH5
KZS Hull wetness for U-Boats + co tower and deck_revised_by_TheDarkWraith
3D_Deck_Splash_FX_v1_0_0_KZS_Compat_byTheBeast
Shadow Improvement Mod
FX_Update_0_0_19_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_1_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_1_0_jimimadrids_map_tools
NewUIs_TDC_7_1_0_No_Snorkel_Exhaust_Smoke
IRAI_0_0_37_ByTheDarkWraith
TDW_Ship_Inertia_1_1_0
TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_74_0
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2
Crew MEGA-mod (contains MightyFine crew)

I just think that for some randomly unknown reasons, TDW's New_ui 7_1_0 is just not compatible with my computer for some of the functionalities...

Gonna revert back to some previous one, only I've got 6_5_1... anyone does have the last one just prior to 7_1_0 ?

Targor Avelany · 09-20-12, 08:05 PM

why do you think it is NewUI?

kapitan_zur_see · 09-21-12, 03:45 AM

that could be something else indeed, but given all CTDs are concentrated upon requests on certain parts of the GUI, it seems the most obvious for the time being

do anyone still have a link to some older version? I'll ask magic man TDW

the only spare one I kept is 6_5_1, a bit old

Kalleblom · 09-21-12, 04:17 AM

KZS,

you´ve got mail

volodya61 · 09-21-12, 04:30 AM

New UIs 6.9.0 - http://www.gamefront.com/files/21026...eDarkWraith_7z

09-20-12, 04:34 AM	#2
Kalleblom Lieutenant Join Date: May 2012 Location: Waterkant Posts: 252 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	only a little brainstorm. In your list the TDW patcher is installed before the NewUI. I install the patcher at last and get the info from JSGME that two files are already installed of the NewUI. Maybe there´s an approach. __________________ My Modlist Last edited by Kalleblom; 09-20-12 at 05:34 AM.

09-20-12, 09:44 AM	#3
=TFO=Katarn Watch Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Vlissingen,Holland. Posts: 21 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	I found this,maybe it matters,i dunno: INSTALL ORDER: ... ... KZS Hull wetness for U-Boats + co tower and deck_revised_by_TheDarkWraith 3D_Deck_Splash_FX_v1_0_0_byTheBeast <---------------- 3D_Deck_Splash_FX_v1_0_0_KZS_Compat_byTheBeast ... ... Just like Kalleblom i installed TDW`s patcher at the end. I myself,because of my bad-english,are a little puzzled about this: Download additional crew sound`s Beta 6 (include HOTFIX 3): http://subsim.armedassault.eu/Stormy...unds_beta6.rar Does above mean the fix is already included in that download,or does it mean you have to also include that fix ? Good luck with your soup KZS Last edited by =TFO=Katarn; 09-20-12 at 10:08 AM.

09-20-12, 03:07 PM	#9
Kalleblom Lieutenant Join Date: May 2012 Location: Waterkant Posts: 252 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	Moin KZS, don't know if ist works, but i few proposals. For the Equipment try this Order: Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 #Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix Eqp_Upgrades_fix_v1.4 dates by sober Patch V2 Then, if I remember correctly, you have to put the FX Update before the NewUI and the IRAI after. The Crew Mod, don't know exactly, but the Mighty Fine most i saw before NewUI. Water Disturbence don't need when using the actual IRAI 37. And at least, for what is the Personal Commands mod and be sure it works with the NewUI, don't know if it's better to enable after. Only ideas and thoughts, no entitlement to be successful Hope you get it work. Kalle __________________ My Modlist

09-21-12, 03:45 AM	#13
kapitan_zur_see Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 614 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	that could be something else indeed, but given all CTDs are concentrated upon requests on certain parts of the GUI, it seems the most obvious for the time being do anyone still have a link to some older version? I'll ask magic man TDW the only spare one I kept is 6_5_1, a bit old __________________

09-21-12, 04:17 AM	#14
Kalleblom Lieutenant Join Date: May 2012 Location: Waterkant Posts: 252 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	KZS, you´ve got mail __________________ My Modlist

09-20-12, 09:56 AM	#5
=TFO=Katarn Watch Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Vlissingen,Holland. Posts: 21 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	THX! IF the fix is included in that mod-download then KZS can take that seperate hotfix out of his soup i think.

09-20-12, 10:53 AM	#7
=TFO=Katarn Watch Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Vlissingen,Holland. Posts: 21 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	Aye

09-20-12, 03:08 PM	#10
Targor Avelany Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 1,183 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	also move the FX update before UI

09-20-12, 08:05 PM	#12
Targor Avelany Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 1,183 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	why do you think it is NewUI?

09-21-12, 04:30 AM	#15
volodya61 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Rostov-on-Don, local time GMT+4 Posts: 3,300 Downloads: 374 Uploads: 0	New UIs 6.9.0 - http://www.gamefront.com/files/21026...eDarkWraith_7z __________________ . Where does human stupidity end? . *El sueño de la razón produce monstruos © - and for some people awakening will be cruel*

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