Anti-Air Defences

19Herr_Rapp86 · 06-11-12, 05:16 PM

Do any of your flak cannons, 20mm, 30mm, 3.7cm, or what have you, flak rounds rendered in the game at all, with the little puffs of smoke in the sky when they detonate? I haven't seen any puffs of smoke in the air after firing AA guns but not sure if they come later on in the war or not.

u crank · 06-11-12, 06:32 PM

I may be wrong, but I don't believe any of those rounds, 20mm, 30mm, 3.7cm, would explode unless they hit something.

Sailor Steve · 06-11-12, 07:22 PM

I agree. Shells were either AP Tracer, which was a solid round, or HE Incindiary which exploded on contact. No timed fuses and certainly no proximity fuses. Hence, no puffs of smoke.

19Herr_Rapp86 · 06-11-12, 07:50 PM

Okay so no flakvierlings like on Band of Brothers episode 2 Day of Days where the tracers explode in the sky and make a blanket of shrapnel. Thanks guys. Just was curious,

Sailor Steve · 06-11-12, 09:10 PM

Actually you may be right, but for the wrong reason. This page says that all the rounds would self-destruct after a few seconds, which would leave a telltale puff of smoke - not because they exploded for a shrapnel effect, though that might happen as well, but because the tracer would burn out, destroying the round.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_cm_Fl...8/Flakvierling

It also says that some tracerless rounds self-destructed. I don't see how they could make a timed fuse that small, but that's what they say.

As for making something like that in a game, it's probably doable in an original game, but I doubt SH3 could be adapted to do that.

19Herr_Rapp86 · 06-11-12, 09:20 PM

Okay. Yeah. That article explains a lot. Very interesting article.

nutworld · 06-12-12, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Actually you may be right, but for the wrong reason. This page says that all the rounds would self-destruct after a few seconds, which would leave a telltale puff of smoke - not because they exploded for a shrapnel effect, though that might happen as well, but because the tracer would burn out, destroying the round.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_cm_Fl...8/Flakvierling

It also says that some tracerless rounds self-destructed. I don't see how they could make a timed fuse that small, but that's what they say.

As for making something like that in a game, it's probably doable in an original game, but I doubt SH3 could be adapted to do that.

wikipedia sure has it's flaws and errors, and there are MANY places that are incorrect, but people ususally TRY very hard to have good information listed.

For me, Wikipedia has become my own person "online" encyclopedia. Great article, I learned much I wasn't aware because of it.

Thanks for sharing

06-11-12, 05:16 PM	#1
19Herr_Rapp86 Lieutenant Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ellinwood, Kansas Posts: 260 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	Anti-Air Defences Do any of your flak cannons, 20mm, 30mm, 3.7cm, or what have you, flak rounds rendered in the game at all, with the little puffs of smoke in the sky when they detonate? I haven't seen any puffs of smoke in the air after firing AA guns but not sure if they come later on in the war or not. __________________ Kapitanleutnant Rapp, Kommandant U-45

06-11-12, 06:32 PM	#2
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,745 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	I may be wrong, but I don't believe any of those rounds, 20mm, 30mm, 3.7cm, would explode unless they hit something. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

06-11-12, 07:22 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I agree. Shells were either AP Tracer, which was a solid round, or HE Incindiary which exploded on contact. No timed fuses and certainly no proximity fuses. Hence, no puffs of smoke. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-11-12, 07:50 PM	#4
19Herr_Rapp86 Lieutenant Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ellinwood, Kansas Posts: 260 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	Okay so no flakvierlings like on Band of Brothers episode 2 Day of Days where the tracers explode in the sky and make a blanket of shrapnel. Thanks guys. Just was curious, __________________ Kapitanleutnant Rapp, Kommandant U-45

06-11-12, 09:10 PM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Actually you may be right, but for the wrong reason. This page says that all the rounds would self-destruct after a few seconds, which would leave a telltale puff of smoke - not because they exploded for a shrapnel effect, though that might happen as well, but because the tracer would burn out, destroying the round. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_cm_Fl...8/Flakvierling It also says that some tracerless rounds self-destructed. I don't see how they could make a timed fuse that small, but that's what they say. As for making something like that in a game, it's probably doable in an original game, but I doubt SH3 could be adapted to do that. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-11-12, 09:20 PM	#6
19Herr_Rapp86 Lieutenant Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ellinwood, Kansas Posts: 260 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	Okay. Yeah. That article explains a lot. Very interesting article. __________________ Kapitanleutnant Rapp, Kommandant U-45

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