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Old 05-21-12, 08:24 AM   #1
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Default What Happened to the Alien and Predator Series?

11 part review of both the Alien and the Predator movies as well as the.. sigh.. AvP movies:

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Old 05-21-12, 08:41 AM   #2
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Old 05-21-12, 09:15 AM   #3
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Just watched the Alien ones only and agree most part on what the commentator said.

ALIEN 10/10.....Directors Cut 10/10
ALIENS 8/10..... Directors cut 9/10
ALIEN3 6/10.....Ext Version 7/10
ALIEN RESURRECTION 4/10.....Ext version 4/10

The fourth film was a load of rubbish and a disgrace.

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The AvP films were crap to utter crap.

Predator was a good film as for Predator 2 what a let down no where as good as the first was, as for the third one not seen it yet, may watch it when it comes on TV.

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Just finished watching his views on the Terminator series and have to agree with him on that one as well.
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The AvP films were crap to utter crap.

Predator was a good film as for Predator 2 what a let down no where as good as the first was, as for the third one not seen it yet, may watch it when it comes on TV.

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Just finished watching his views on the Terminator series and have to agree with him on that one as well.
Predator 2 was OK, but of course not nearly as good as the first movie, but don't let that bias you against Predators. Predators is nearly as good as the first movie, and in some ways superior. It puts the action back where it belongs, in the jungle. Also, unlike Predator 2, but like Predator, it will age well because it doesn't rely so much on current events and popular culture.

Don't wait until it's bowdlerized on TV.
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Old 05-21-12, 12:02 PM   #6
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ALIEN 10/10.....Directors Cut 10/10
ALIENS 8/10..... Directors cut 9/10
ALIEN3 6/10.....Ext Version 7/10
ALIEN RESURRECTION 4/10.....Ext version 4/10

The fourth film was a load of rubbish and a disgrace.
Yeah, I agree with that. Except for A3, which I've started to like more and more.
Heck, these days I even like them killing off Hicks and Newt in the beginning of
the movie. Somehow makes Ripley's seemingly endless nightmare all the more
sadder, she just can't win.
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Old 05-21-12, 12:05 PM   #7
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I believe the Alien movies and story lines have gone to this:

Prometheus
http://www.movieinsider.com/m5506/alien-5/

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Notes: Originally slated as a two-part prequel to the 1979 Alien movie. Both Ridley Scott and Fox have carefully avoided calling it a prequel, although the similarity of styles is apparent in the movie stills, and with the use of the same sound effects, spaceship structures and title font animation in the teaser.
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Prometheus look to be very interesting first movie I have wanted to see in a good while.H.R. Giger is helping with the film I see which is great news the Alien creature is his design so was the "Space Jockey" and the derelict ship.I hope that Prometheus is something completely different from the Alien films maybe take some of the concepts the same "universe".

Alien is one of the best films it is so good at hitting primal fear you can watch that movie many times and you still feel it.

I heard that they removed the Space Jockey though but that was from a 2011 interview with Scott things can change.

I think what he said about the xenomorph appearing in Prometheus;

"No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry. He (the xenomorph) did very well. (He laughs) He survived, he's now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

Disneyland is in California the ride he is thinking of is at MGM Studios which is part of Disenyworld in Orlando FL it is part of a ride that features bits from various films using animatronics and it is pretty cheesy.

I think that sums up the Alien and Predator lines well they just went too main stream when the basic story was the best.Aliens was good partly because it had a very skilled and technical director James Cameron and it still ran with the primal fear formula.


http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=85253

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http://www.weylandindustries.com/
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^ We have a thread about Prometheus
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//sho...d.php?t=179114
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Yeah, I agree with that. Except for A3, which I've started to like more and more.
Heck, these days I even like them killing off Hicks and Newt in the beginning of
the movie. Somehow makes Ripley's seemingly endless nightmare all the more
sadder, she just can't win.
I've always thought that Alien3 was the perfect capstone to the trilogy. It doesn't get nearly the respect that it should. It brings the Ripley character full circle, and there really wasn't anywhere to go after that.

You also have to remember, that between her first encounter with the xenomorphs on LV-426/Nostromo to her death on Fiorina 161, to her only a few months at most have passed, even though they are separated by 60-some years chronologically.
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I've always thought that Alien3 was the perfect capstone to the trilogy. It doesn't get nearly the respect that it should. It brings the Ripley character full circle, and there really wasn't anywhere to go after that.

You also have to remember, that between her first encounter with the xenomorphs on LV-426/Nostromo to her death on Fiorina 161, to her only a few months at most have passed, even though they are separated by 60-some years chronologically.
Agreed.

Oh and Happy Birthday ALIEN 3! (20th anniversary today )
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Yeah, I agree with that. Except for A3, which I've started to like more and more.
Heck, these days I even like them killing off Hicks and Newt in the beginning of
the movie. Somehow makes Ripley's seemingly endless nightmare all the more
sadder, she just can't win.

Well put.

God I like Alien 2, and Paxton's character--GAME OVER MAN!

I played the first AvP game, was a lot of fun.
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God I like Alien 2, and Paxton's character--GAME OVER MAN!


"We're on an express elevator to hell; going down!!"


The AvP2 game's quite good too, probably can get it cheap from Steam.
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I think when you consider the alien series, one must keep in mind that the original movie, alien... was done by Ridley Scott... and it was brilliant! James Cameron jumped on for the next film, Aliens... and while both men did a great job, each focused on different things... the rest of the films in the franchise had their moments... and while I'm not necessarily a stickler for the original ONLY... I am looking forward to Mr. Scott's newest offering... Promethous... which will be released soon. Might help to answer some questions that have been floating around people's minds... Please don't look for Miss Weaver in the new film, she won't be there... as it takes place LONG before her entrance into the story line.

As for Predator.. well... I don't know what they did with that... I think it pooped out to be honest... which is too bad, as I thought the concept was very creative... double the fun!!!

Anyway those are my thoughts...

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The first Alien Vs predator wasnt THAT bad. i gave it a 7/10.

now Alien Vs Predator requiem, THAT was seriously one of the worst movies ive ever seen, up there in the top 20 worst movies ive seen for sure.

requiem was a 4/10 because the CGI was okay. If it didnt have any decent effects, it would be a 2/10. Was predictable, pointless, filled with plot holes, Bad acting, and its your typical B- Hack and slash film that youd be unlucky to see on T.V as filler material.

almost as bad as the final destinaton series.
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