Does anyone Actualy Have

andwii · 12-12-11, 03:09 PM

Does anyone actualy have like a real uboat training manual (like how they trained the commanders). Ive been kind of wondering if one of them ever survived, and I can just pick up a PDF or something of it, so I can learn how they learned. Sure the TDC is nice and all, but I wanna know how they did everything when it came to attacking, so I can intergrate it with my gameplay.

frau kaleun · 12-12-11, 03:19 PM

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/uboat/index.htm

Also available to purchase from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/U-Boat-Command...721015&sr=1-18

flag4 · 12-12-11, 04:20 PM

...i remember having a copy and reading it on the loo. thats where i kept it(?)
i kind of enjoyed reading it and tried to integrate what i was reading into the sim, with little luck or change in ability.

some of the parts on escaping detection helped a bit

has anyone found it strengthened their game-play?

andwii · 12-12-11, 04:36 PM

Frau your a saint, was gonna buy it for 30 bucks but now that I found this, heck with that lol. Maybe at some time I will purchase a copy, but for now this will do quite nicely.

frau kaleun · 12-12-11, 06:24 PM

No problem, glad to help!

Kapt Z · 12-12-11, 11:37 PM

Quote:

kind of enjoyed reading it and tried to integrate what i was reading into the sim, with little luck or change in ability.

some of the parts on escaping detection helped a bit

has anyone found it strengthened their game-play?

Some tips here and there, but more interesting for the immersion factor than anything else.

andwii · 12-16-11, 11:10 AM

ok so I am nearly done reading the handbook, but it didnt teach me how they made distance calculations, speed, and enemys cource (I think they didnt tell that last one.) anyone have any documents that explane how they really did it, or how they were taught how to do the calculations?

Rosencrantz · 12-20-11, 05:10 PM

Hello andwii!

I affraid the U-boat Commander's Handbook is the only more or less original document you can find from the internet and which is also translated in english. From the U-boat Archive you can find few more original documents also in english, but those papers can't answer your questions.

During approach phase course, distance, and speed calculations were done pretty much in the same manner in the U-boat as they were done in the US fleet boats. However, during my studies few years ago I came into conclusion that usually U-boat skippers preffered normal approach course insted of using optimal approach course. This is odd, but several original war diaries confirm this.

Greetings,
-RC-

12-12-11, 03:09 PM	#1
andwii Frogman Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bridge of U-123 Posts: 300 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Does anyone Actualy Have Does anyone actualy have like a real uboat training manual (like how they trained the commanders). Ive been kind of wondering if one of them ever survived, and I can just pick up a PDF or something of it, so I can learn how they learned. Sure the TDC is nice and all, but I wanna know how they did everything when it came to attacking, so I can intergrate it with my gameplay.

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flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	...i remember having a copy and reading it on the loo. thats where i kept it(?) i kind of enjoyed reading it and tried to integrate what i was reading into the sim, with little luck or change in ability. some of the parts on escaping detection helped a bit has anyone found it strengthened their game-play? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

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12-12-11, 03:19 PM	#2
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	http://www.hnsa.org/doc/uboat/index.htm Also available to purchase from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/U-Boat-Command...721015&sr=1-18

12-12-11, 04:36 PM	#4
andwii Frogman Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bridge of U-123 Posts: 300 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Frau your a saint, was gonna buy it for 30 bucks but now that I found this, heck with that lol. Maybe at some time I will purchase a copy, but for now this will do quite nicely.

12-12-11, 06:24 PM	#5
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	No problem, glad to help!

12-16-11, 11:10 AM	#7
andwii Frogman Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bridge of U-123 Posts: 300 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	ok so I am nearly done reading the handbook, but it didnt teach me how they made distance calculations, speed, and enemys cource (I think they didnt tell that last one.) anyone have any documents that explane how they really did it, or how they were taught how to do the calculations?

12-20-11, 05:10 PM	#8
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Hello andwii! I affraid the U-boat Commander's Handbook is the only more or less original document you can find from the internet and which is also translated in english. From the U-boat Archive you can find few more original documents also in english, but those papers can't answer your questions. During approach phase course, distance, and speed calculations were done pretty much in the same manner in the U-boat as they were done in the US fleet boats. However, during my studies few years ago I came into conclusion that usually U-boat skippers preffered normal approach course insted of using optimal approach course. This is odd, but several original war diaries confirm this. Greetings, -RC-