I ask favour (by want of much curiosity, learning, and share of knowledge) the ON Topic views, opinions, facts, and speculations of the war from American members and friends herein. It saddened me to find but 1 slight mention in the sister thread, pertaining to this topic (post 6 Takeda) on slavery. I am sensible to the fact it is or can be a most sensitive topic given the locus, and can so falter may it be put upon the not so well behaved. I desire and insist it stays on topic, that we carefully and maturely consider the posts, and that you will please to pardon my manners. On urging this, I can fondly persuade myself of worthy responses. We have spoken about much already Indian tribes etc This subject matter we so dearly missed and it is more than apt to say it did and could have had a more major impact or upset during the Revolution war. I do not, nor can confess myself to have more insight other than what I am about to put. Thank You.

It is said during the early skirmishes of the war, congress was pushing Washington to let go some of his most loyal soldiers, African Americans. From the offset Free American blacks served the patriot cause well and with the same concerns of their white compatriots. Creeds Hill (effectually known as Bunker hill) Concord, Lexington. However recruiting black soldiers he had trouble with, because congress did.

As the militia was fast becoming a continental army, and not longer just a northern one, armed blacks created a loaded issue in congress. (Southern States) opposed to making soldiers out of them.

Washington himself was no different from any other southern planter regarding blacks, thus the slave holder he was, issued his own order banning black recruits in congress!! " The rights of mankind and the freedom of America will have numbers sufficient to support them without resorting to such wretched assistance. " Though the great irony of the closest friend of the general his personal slave Billy Lee!!
VIRGINIA, NOV, 1775 Washington and congress decision to reject black soldiers played perfectly into the British hands thus Lord Dunmore issued the famous Proclamation which created havoc, the chance for freedom with the Brits.


Thomas Jefferson estimated in VIRGINIA alone 30,000 African Americans walked off the plantations, and many becoming soldiers subjects to the crown. Even Free blacks travelled plantation to plantation embolden slaves to escape. ( PUSHING ON ) As Jefferson stumbles across the central question in his 1st draft for independence, who will become a free American?? Would the new nation mean rights to every man, woman, child, and even slave?? The rich, property owners?? Who's to be included in this new nation about to unfold??

Talk of Freedom, Liberty, spreads to the 500,000 colonists whom were black, 1/5th of the population. Slavery dividing the colonies, such talk of independence. Some colonists drew the line of giving Liberty to slaves, others bristle at the hypocrisy of fighting for independence while sanctioning slavery.

Ironically Jefferson with over 100 slaves at that time wrote in his draft " Among these rights are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness "

Thus many slaves fled from cities, plantations across America. Washington's plantation = 17 slaves ran. Jefferson's plantation 23 ran. What was best for them? patriot or loyalist did not matter. Then Jefferson taking aim to amend in his draft of slavery and of its wrongfulness, yet fell short of calling an end of slave holding.

Major battles were looming, compromises had to be met, the British were soon to be coming back in there thousands!! As the delegates at congress tore into Jefferson's draft of independence, after 3 days of debate 89 different things were removed, including anything on the practice of slavery. They could not fix it, they chose to ignore/ postpone for another day, that bad day was the civil war!!!

Remarkable, I humbly welcome your sentiments, regarding facts, individual opinions, and speculation of how the continentals would have favoured etc..