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cobalt · 07-26-11, 05:48 PM

Lets fix this game.

DoveEgg · 07-26-11, 05:55 PM

I'm all for improving this game!

TheDarkWraith · 07-26-11, 06:07 PM

We've been busy fixing/enhancing this game for some time now

kapitan_zur_see · 07-26-11, 06:13 PM

I second that

However, there's still to do! and the more we are, the best It can be!
We certainly could do with your modding abilities

cobalt · 07-26-11, 06:14 PM

Oh, I know dark. You guys have done a great job. When I first loaded this game up after release I was like... "w-what is this? This isnt silent hunter.." I played for 45mins and shelved it.

The other day I reinstalled and used MO and OH and have had a pleasurable experience so far, but there are just a ton of issues with the game in general. I do however see a lot of promise. The engine is generally in tact from what I can tell, its just a lot of the implementation is all kinds of weird. What are the limitations you guys have run into so far modding?

TheDarkWraith · 07-26-11, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobalt

The engine is generally in tact from what I can tell, its just a lot of the implementation is all kinds of weird. What are the limitations you guys have run into so far modding?

GR2 file is somewhat of a limitation depending on how it's used. If used for units it's a big limitation. If used for waypoints it really is no limitation.
Other than that I can't think of anything else that really is a limitation per se. The biggest limitation I've found is time (for modding)

kapitan_zur_see · 07-26-11, 07:08 PM

GR2 files are indeed a big limitation. I'd say limitations mainly depends on your skills, that's why TDW may not be the most representative modder here, because of his above average skills and area of expertise...

I believe we're mainly refining and polishing things done or approached as for the moment. Pretty much everything that can be done using tools and common modding technique as been somewhat covered.

So if you don't have something like TDW's skills in programming, hex editing and reverse-engineering, you're up for some big limitations, because there lies the future of SH5 modding and common modders are waiting for breakthrough in this department to find new stuff to improve (that's why you'll see that most of the SH5 modding forum progresses are only done by a very few bunch of individuals and that except those few, you won't see many news)

There's probably more "uncovered" grounds in the eye-candy department.

TheDarkWraith · 07-26-11, 07:59 PM

there's much to be done:
- the damage/flooding model of the ships needs to be finished/possibly revised. I did all the merchants in my FX_Update mod but never did the warships
- new effects for the game to be made (PGs and FPGs) and those tied into the Zones.dat file as Effect#x

Those are two big ones that need to be tackled currently.

07-26-11, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

GR2 file is somewhat of a limitation depending on how it's used. If used for units it's a big limitation.

Use Google.
It's not a limitation if you search the proper term.
Doing the build of Units correctly is the final key.
Haveing a base Unit for SH5 before it was ever converted to SH5 would help.
Being as I'm no Hero?
That's all I can tell you at this time.

cobalt · 07-26-11, 10:52 PM

What about the campaign? Have you guys tried to fiddle with making getting rid of the ridiculousness?

THE_MASK · 07-26-11, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobalt

What about the campaign? Have you guys tried to fiddle with making getting rid of the ridiculousness?

They fixed it .

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=182964

cobalt · 07-27-11, 04:29 PM

I like what open horizons has done to make the campaign more realistic, but im talking about completely wiping out the mission system of kill x tons..etc and re introduce the patrol system from sh3. I'd imagine that has been a problem for you guys to do.

THE_MASK · 07-27-11, 04:36 PM

I have always had an option before leaving port weather i want to go on patrol without choosing a mission or not .

cobalt · 07-27-11, 05:04 PM

Doesnt it not progress the campaign along if you dont complete the missions though?

THE_MASK · 07-27-11, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobalt

Doesnt it not progress the campaign along if you dont complete the missions though?

I dunno , i am only up to oct 25th 1939 .

07-26-11, 05:48 PM	#1
cobalt Commander Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 440 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I'm back Lets fix this game. __________________ download my playable viic/41 submarine http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107315 http://files.filefront.com/CobaltsVI.../fileinfo.html

07-26-11, 06:13 PM	#4
kapitan_zur_see Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 614 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	I second that However, there's still to do! and the more we are, the best It can be! We certainly could do with your modding abilities __________________

07-26-11, 06:14 PM	#5
cobalt Commander Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 440 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Oh, I know dark. You guys have done a great job. When I first loaded this game up after release I was like... "w-what is this? This isnt silent hunter.." I played for 45mins and shelved it. The other day I reinstalled and used MO and OH and have had a pleasurable experience so far, but there are just a ton of issues with the game in general. I do however see a lot of promise. The engine is generally in tact from what I can tell, its just a lot of the implementation is all kinds of weird. What are the limitations you guys have run into so far modding? __________________ download my playable viic/41 submarine http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107315 http://files.filefront.com/CobaltsVI.../fileinfo.html

07-26-11, 07:08 PM	#7
kapitan_zur_see Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 614 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	GR2 files are indeed a big limitation. I'd say limitations mainly depends on your skills, that's why TDW may not be the most representative modder here, because of his above average skills and area of expertise... I believe we're mainly refining and polishing things done or approached as for the moment. Pretty much everything that can be done using tools and common modding technique as been somewhat covered. So if you don't have something like TDW's skills in programming, hex editing and reverse-engineering, you're up for some big limitations, because there lies the future of SH5 modding and common modders are waiting for breakthrough in this department to find new stuff to improve (that's why you'll see that most of the SH5 modding forum progresses are only done by a very few bunch of individuals and that except those few, you won't see many news) There's probably more "uncovered" grounds in the eye-candy department. __________________

07-26-11, 10:52 PM	#10
cobalt Commander Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 440 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	What about the campaign? Have you guys tried to fiddle with making getting rid of the ridiculousness? __________________ download my playable viic/41 submarine http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107315 http://files.filefront.com/CobaltsVI.../fileinfo.html

07-26-11, 05:55 PM	#2
DoveEgg Seaman Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 40 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	I'm all for improving this game!

07-26-11, 06:07 PM	#3
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	We've been busy fixing/enhancing this game for some time now

07-26-11, 07:59 PM	#8
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	there's much to be done: - the damage/flooding model of the ships needs to be finished/possibly revised. I did all the merchants in my FX_Update mod but never did the warships - new effects for the game to be made (PGs and FPGs) and those tied into the Zones.dat file as Effect#x Those are two big ones that need to be tackled currently.

07-27-11, 04:29 PM	#12
cobalt Commander Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 440 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I like what open horizons has done to make the campaign more realistic, but im talking about completely wiping out the mission system of kill x tons..etc and re introduce the patrol system from sh3. I'd imagine that has been a problem for you guys to do. __________________ download my playable viic/41 submarine http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107315 http://files.filefront.com/CobaltsVI.../fileinfo.html

07-27-11, 04:36 PM	#13
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	I have always had an option before leaving port weather i want to go on patrol without choosing a mission or not .

07-27-11, 05:04 PM	#14
cobalt Commander Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 440 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Doesnt it not progress the campaign along if you dont complete the missions though? __________________ download my playable viic/41 submarine http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107315 http://files.filefront.com/CobaltsVI.../fileinfo.html

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