Whoa... mind ****

Gargamel · 03-22-11, 11:01 PM

I love me some theoretical physics. yum.

This blew my mind just reading it. These two statements in particular:

...the Universe may have existed in a lower dimensional state in the past.

Mureika and Stojkovic think the Universe will eventually be promoted again, to a five-dimensional state, at some point in the future.

http://news.discovery.com/space/once...rd-110321.html

So if anybody ever asks you if you are a 5th dimensional being, you say "probably". (Sorry Inside joke< ask if you want it explained)

Betonov · 03-23-11, 02:28 AM

There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

I think Douglas Adams might have been on to something.

sharkbit · 03-23-11, 07:14 AM

“William James describes a man who got the experience from laughing-gas; whenever he was under its influence, he knew the secret of the universe, but when he came to, he had forgotten it. At last, with immense effort, he wrote down the secret before the vision had faded. When completely recovered, he rushed to see what he had written. It was 'A smell of petroleum prevails throughout'.”

Skybird · 03-23-11, 07:30 AM

We not so much discover the absolute reality, but we invent it.

Paul Watzlawick: Die Wirklichkeit wird weniger gefunden als vielmehr erfunden.

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Originally Posted by Betonov

There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

Arthur C. Clarke: The Nine Billion Names of God

Skybird · 03-23-11, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbit

“William James describes a man who got the experience from laughing-gas; whenever he was under its influence, he knew the secret of the universe, but when he came to, he had forgotten it. At last, with immense effort, he wrote down the secret before the vision had faded. When completely recovered, he rushed to see what he had written. It was 'A smell of petroleum prevails throughout'.”

Yes, its all about oil. Typical.

SgtPotato · 03-23-11, 08:17 AM

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Growler · 03-23-11, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov

There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

I think Douglas Adams might have been on to something.

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.

Catfish · 03-23-11, 02:00 PM

It is much worse.
What we think is real has nothing to do with a reality. We see only in a short range of wavelengths, as well we do not see what happens even in our small window of perceptance.
Our eyes see something, and then they shut off or look at something else in a split second too fast for the brain to follow it, this is called saccades. It is a solution to prevent flooding your porr brain with too much input.

Whatever happens between two looks is being made up by the brain, made up by (what you think are) "logical" assumptions - which are again defined by your brain. You do not see what you think is not logical, in context.
Even if you directly see something without concentrating on it, it will be "invisible" because your brain will not accept those things to be real, even if they are.

As well the brain is not an instrument to define reality or see the truth, but an apparatus to survive - and if eyes lying to the brain are good for survival, so be it.
You can show people things and they will not see what happens - which is certainly used for all kinds of presenting the truth, and now also military purposes.

Greetings,
Catfish

NeonSamurai · 03-24-11, 10:10 AM

As far as I am aware, the purpose behind saccades is not to prevent the brain from being flooded, but partly due to the necessary refractory period, and mostly due to the need to section of 'time' in order to be able to process (compute) anything. For anything to be computed, it first has to be sectioned by periods of time.

Also the waves are theories in of themselves (as is everything else), as is the brain and neurons, as since everything is perceived, it is not what is, but a response (a series of calculations/decisions) to what our senses received. Therefore all we have is theories, except perhaps for our own consciousness (awareness).

I think there for I am (a very bad translation of René Descartes)

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Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Whoa... mind **** I love me some theoretical physics. yum. This blew my mind just reading it. These two statements in particular: ...the Universe may have existed in a lower dimensional state in the past. Mureika and Stojkovic think the Universe will eventually be promoted again, to a five-dimensional state, at some point in the future. http://news.discovery.com/space/once...rd-110321.html So if anybody ever asks you if you are a 5th dimensional being, you say "probably". (Sorry Inside joke< ask if you want it explained) __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

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sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	“William James describes a man who got the experience from laughing-gas; whenever he was under its influence, he knew the secret of the universe, but when he came to, he had forgotten it. At last, with immense effort, he wrote down the secret before the vision had faded. When completely recovered, he rushed to see what he had written. It was 'A smell of petroleum prevails throughout'.” __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

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NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	As far as I am aware, the purpose behind saccades is not to prevent the brain from being flooded, but partly due to the necessary refractory period, and mostly due to the need to section of 'time' in order to be able to process (compute) anything. For anything to be computed, it first has to be sectioned by periods of time. Also the waves are theories in of themselves (as is everything else), as is the brain and neurons, as since everything is perceived, it is not what is, but a response (a series of calculations/decisions) to what our senses received. Therefore all we have is theories, except perhaps for our own consciousness (awareness). I think there for I am (a very bad translation of René Descartes) __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

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03-23-11, 02:28 AM	#2
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. I think Douglas Adams might have been on to something.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	It is much worse. What we think is real has nothing to do with a reality. We see only in a short range of wavelengths, as well we do not see what happens even in our small window of perceptance. Our eyes see something, and then they shut off or look at something else in a split second too fast for the brain to follow it, this is called saccades. It is a solution to prevent flooding your porr brain with too much input. Whatever happens between two looks is being made up by the brain, made up by (what you think are) "logical" assumptions - which are again defined by your brain. You do not see what you think is not logical, in context. Even if you directly see something without concentrating on it, it will be "invisible" because your brain will not accept those things to be real, even if they are. As well the brain is not an instrument to define reality or see the truth, but an apparatus to survive - and if eyes lying to the brain are good for survival, so be it. You can show people things and they will not see what happens - which is certainly used for all kinds of presenting the truth, and now also military purposes. Greetings, Catfish