Cousin of wikileaks thread: China aiding Taliban

[TLAM Strike]

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...n&channel=awst

A British military official contends that Chinese specialists have been seen training Taliban fighters in the use of infrared-guided surface-to-air missiles. This is supported by a May 13, 2008, classified U.S. State Department document released by WikiLeaks telling U.S. officials to confront Chinese officials about missile proliferation.

Not limited to Afghanistan either.

“In April 2008, coalition forces recovered from a cache in Basra, Iraq, at least two Chinese-produced Iranian-supplied QW-1 manpads that we assess were provided by Iran to Iraqi Shia militants. The date of production for the recovered QW-1 systems is 2003, but it is not known when these particular launchers were transferred by China to Iran or when the launchers entered Iraq,” the cable says. “Beijing has typically responded by asserting that its sales are in accordance with international law, that it requires end-users to sign agreements pledging not to retransfer the weapons, or—disingenuously in the judgment of [U.S. government] technical experts—that it cannot confirm that the weapons recovered by coalition forces in Iraq are actually Chinese in origin.”

When I tried to reach Tehran for comment all I got was this:

China is bribing our "Allies" to switch sides...

In fact, the Wiki*Leaks trove of State Department documents reveals a confrontation between the U.S. and Chinese ambassadors in Kyrgyzstan. The U.S. official, Tatiana Gfoeller, asked Zhang Yannian in early 2009 about a covert attempt by China to bribe the Kyrgyz government with $3 billion in cash to close the U.S. military base at Manas, which is a primary logistics center for operations in Afghanistan.

I've said it before... who wants to bet OBL is hiding in Xinjiang Province in western China?

[GoldenRivet]

The plot thickens

[Freiwillige]

Good ol' commies never change there stripes. Go figure we bail them out of WWII which was a mistake looking at things then they turn on us in human waves in Korea 6 years later!

MacArthur was right.

Typical commie bastages!

Go figure we bail them out of WWII which was a mistake looking at things then they turn on us in human waves in Korea 6 years later!

Go figure, you jump in to a suspended years old civil war for your own advantage, the side in that civil war you are really backing ends up hoofing it to an offshore island when things turn out bad for them and you are somehow surprised when the other side isn't very friendly afterwards.

Funny isn't it, you are complaining about the actions of a govt. and its relations to your country in the 1950s when your govt. didn't even recognise the govt. of that country until 1971.

[Skybird]

Remember the Rwanda genocide. In the weeks before it broke loose, the Chinese delivered shiploads of machetes. Not firearms - machetes. Most of the killing and torturing and hacking was done with these.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Remember the Rwanda genocide. In the weeks before it broke loose, the Chinese delivered shiploads of machetes. Not firearms - machetes. Most of the killing and torturing and hacking was done with these.

That I did not know.


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Am I going to Hell for that?

[Capt. Morgan]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Good ol' commies never change there stripes. Go figure we bail them out of WWII ...

I hope you're not saying that the U.S. bailed out the Soviet Union in WWII.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Capt. Morgan

I hope you're not saying that the U.S. bailed out the Soviet Union in WWII.

Think he was referring to ChiComs, although IIRC the US was more on the Kai-sheks side than Maos...but either which way, they and the Soviets kicked the Japs out of China.

[the_tyrant]

the possibility of this being true is really unlikely

Some ideas i got from a chinese forum:
"This is really unlikely, since the Taliban supports 东突(a Chinese Islamic terrorist organization)"
"China has a lot of investments in Afghanistan and Iraq. Many Chinese experts are sent there to support the local government, I do not believe that china will actually do this"
"China sells weapons to Pakistan, so it is most likely that the Taliban got Chinese equipment from Pakistan"

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

the possibility of this being true is really unlikely

Some ideas i got from a chinese forum:
"This is really unlikely, since the Taliban supports 东突(a Chinese Islamic terrorist organization)"
"China has a lot of investments in Afghanistan and Iraq. Many Chinese experts are sent there to support the local government, I do not believe that china will actually do this"
"China sells weapons to Pakistan, so it is most likely that the Taliban got Chinese equipment from Pakistan"

Well if they got these weapons from Pakistan or Iran than that would be in violation of the reexport prohibitions that are part of such arms deals. In such a case China must stop exporting weapons to these countries otherwise these prohibitions are meaningless and the Chinese are just as guilty.

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

No, much more like Vietnam itself. Nothing sexy about it.

Well now that really depended on where you got to take your shore leave.