Justice? 40 year sentance for Omar Khadr!!... maybe not

SteamWake · 11-01-10, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by McClatchey

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVY BASE, Cuba —

A military jury on Sunday gave teen terrorist Omar Khadr a 40-year prison sentence for killing an American commando in Afghanistan, but the sentence was merely symbolic — the United States already had agreed to limit Khadr's prison time to eight years, and Canada last week said it would allow Khadr to serve the bulk of his sentence there

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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/10/3...oldier-to.html

CCIP · 11-01-10, 01:10 PM

As long as he stays for the 8, that's fine. I have no sympathy for the kid's family, but honestly, even on account of age they should give him some sort of chance. And in general, I am not a fan of combatants being tried unless they had actually commited war crimes. Like it or not, killing a soldier on the opposing side isn't exactly against the common sense of war...

However pro-Khadr I would never be. Especially having heard what his female relatives here in Canada have to say, I'm very much inclined to shake my head.

Bubblehead1980 · 11-01-10, 02:04 PM

So a terrorist kills a US commando and gets 8 years? Outrageous, damn bleeding heart Liberals.The SOB should do every day of the 40 years.Yet another reason to oust the Liberal Regime in tomorrow and in 2012.

antikristuseke · 11-01-10, 02:20 PM

What acts of terror had that kid perpetrated?

Bubblehead1980 · 11-01-10, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

What acts of terror had that kid perpetrated?

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

What acts of terror had that kid perpetrated?

This scum threw a grenade and killed a US soldier, he is a terrorist or insurgent, whatever you want to call him.One word describes him best...ENEMY.They should've just took him out on the battlefield.Not a kid or child soldier, this trash was 15 and knew better but chose to do so.So while a good man fighting against garbage like this "kid" is dead, the murderer gets off easy with 8 years and most of that in Canada where he will no doubt be treated well and released one day.I would bet $1,000 that he will return to the fight and we will hear about him being killed or capture again someday.Muslim terrorists/insurgents etc are like sex offenders, no hope for rehabilitation, just can not fix anything that screwed up.

There ARE good and bad people in this world, you are incorrect.Who said I find life a problem? Life has worked out well for me thus far.I just hate the "soft: view some people have taken towards some terrorists/insurgents etc.

CCIP · 11-01-10, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I just hate the "soft: view some people have taken towards some terrorists/insurgents etc.

So the alternative is to dehumanize them? Good going, I see that fight for democracy and human rights is going as planned...

razark · 11-01-10, 06:41 PM

He's in one of two categories. He's either a soldier, or he's a criminal. If he's a soldier, and he's been captured, you hold him as a prisoner of war. If he's a criminal, you give him a trial.

Decide which one he is, and follow through. There's rules in place for handling POWs, and there are rules in place for handling criminals. Determine which he is and treat him accordingly.

tater · 11-01-10, 02:21 PM

Was he wearing a uniform, and rank insignia? If not, he's not a regular combatant, they should have shot him.

Bilge_Rat · 11-01-10, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

Was he wearing a uniform, and rank insignia? If not, he's not a regular combatant, they should have shot him.

no, but Drone operators, CIA personnel, even some special forces personnel do not wear uniforms while on duty. The US government had to rewrite the rules so they could try Kahdr, but not cover U.S. personnel.

I have no sympathy for his actions, but accusing a 15 year old "child soldier" of "murder" for actions on a battlefield is over the top. How will the U.S. react in the next war when U.S. POWs in enemy hands are convicted of "murder"?

tater · 11-01-10, 02:43 PM

US POWs will have their heads hacked off on the internet, full stop. That's what this enemy does.

My solution to the gitmo problem is to cease taking prisoners. Shoot up the building, then nuke it from orbit, just to be sure

TLAM Strike · 11-01-10, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

no, but Drone operators... do not wear uniforms while on duty.

Excuse me?

^Note uniform (flight Suit) detailing name, unit and affiliation.

11-01-10, 01:10 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	As long as he stays for the 8, that's fine. I have no sympathy for the kid's family, but honestly, even on account of age they should give him some sort of chance. And in general, I am not a fan of combatants being tried unless they had actually commited war crimes. Like it or not, killing a soldier on the opposing side isn't exactly against the common sense of war... However pro-Khadr I would never be. Especially having heard what his female relatives here in Canada have to say, I'm very much inclined to shake my head. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

11-01-10, 02:04 PM	#3
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,105 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	re So a terrorist kills a US commando and gets 8 years? Outrageous, damn bleeding heart Liberals.The SOB should do every day of the 40 years.Yet another reason to oust the Liberal Regime in tomorrow and in 2012.

11-01-10, 06:41 PM	#7
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	He's in one of two categories. He's either a soldier, or he's a criminal. If he's a soldier, and he's been captured, you hold him as a prisoner of war. If he's a criminal, you give him a trial. Decide which one he is, and follow through. There's rules in place for handling POWs, and there are rules in place for handling criminals. Determine which he is and treat him accordingly. __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"

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11-01-10, 02:20 PM	#4
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	What acts of terror had that kid perpetrated?

11-01-10, 02:21 PM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Was he wearing a uniform, and rank insignia? If not, he's not a regular combatant, they should have shot him.

11-01-10, 02:43 PM	#10
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	US POWs will have their heads hacked off on the internet, full stop. That's what this enemy does. My solution to the gitmo problem is to cease taking prisoners. Shoot up the building, then nuke it from orbit, just to be sure