What is SH4 still missing.

Armistead · 09-28-10, 08:33 AM

When SH5 came out, the life of SH4 was in doubt, however, it's actually thrived with recent mods.

The game just gets better, still not the perfect game, but a great game.
What else would you like to see added? I won't mention more ships, because they're working on the new JP traffic mod, ship skins, ect..will be a great mod.

One thing I hate is TF speed. I've seldomed run into a TF that I couldn't overcome, although some do hit 20kts or more. We shouldn't be able to sink capital ships at will because of slow speed. I would love to see TF hit realistic speeds so attacking them would really be a run. I'll never forget chasing the Santa Cruz TF going 19 kts. I was behind it, but with it zigging over about 3 days I finally got around it. The majority of large TF go between 14-17kts...very unrealistic.

Night surface attack ability. Under the right conditions, light fog, no moon or against a black sky, be nice to get within decent attack range..

Diopos · 09-28-10, 09:30 AM

TFs operate with fuel efficiency in mind, too and as permitted by their mission/ojective etc. More "variable" TFs (speedwise) sounds OK though...

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tater · 09-28-10, 10:08 AM

DD endurance drops precipitously with speed. Larger ships can steam at higher speeds for longer periods.

In addition, while TFs might have sometimes steamed faster, they would have used complex ZZ patterns, which would have slowed their rate of advance.

Sailor Steve · 09-28-10, 11:42 AM

Which is why ship-to-ship refueling was used. Standard cruise speed for all warships in World War Two was 15 knots.

tater · 09-28-10, 11:51 AM

Yep. Underway replenishment was actually new to the IJN just before the start of the war.

Armistead · 09-28-10, 12:34 PM

I think it would be better to give them unlimited fuel to mimmick being refueled at sea rather than go at slower speeds. Certainly a better zig pattern would be a nice addition other than the little zig they do when noticed, even then they usually slow down. I like the better zig pattern Duc included with TMO, but still not enough.

In about 90% of the books I've read most capital ships were missed due to speed. You only find a few times where subs were able to do end arounds.

09-28-10, 08:33 AM	#1
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	What is SH4 still missing. When SH5 came out, the life of SH4 was in doubt, however, it's actually thrived with recent mods. The game just gets better, still not the perfect game, but a great game. What else would you like to see added? I won't mention more ships, because they're working on the new JP traffic mod, ship skins, ect..will be a great mod. One thing I hate is TF speed. I've seldomed run into a TF that I couldn't overcome, although some do hit 20kts or more. We shouldn't be able to sink capital ships at will because of slow speed. I would love to see TF hit realistic speeds so attacking them would really be a run. I'll never forget chasing the Santa Cruz TF going 19 kts. I was behind it, but with it zigging over about 3 days I finally got around it. The majority of large TF go between 14-17kts...very unrealistic. Night surface attack ability. Under the right conditions, light fog, no moon or against a black sky, be nice to get within decent attack range..

09-28-10, 09:30 AM	#2
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	TFs operate with fuel efficiency in mind, too and as permitted by their mission/ojective etc. More "variable" TFs (speedwise) sounds OK though... . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

09-28-10, 11:42 AM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Which is why ship-to-ship refueling was used. Standard cruise speed for all warships in World War Two was 15 knots. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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09-28-10, 10:08 AM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	DD endurance drops precipitously with speed. Larger ships can steam at higher speeds for longer periods. In addition, while TFs might have sometimes steamed faster, they would have used complex ZZ patterns, which would have slowed their rate of advance.

09-28-10, 11:51 AM	#5
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Yep. Underway replenishment was actually new to the IJN just before the start of the war.

09-28-10, 12:34 PM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I think it would be better to give them unlimited fuel to mimmick being refueled at sea rather than go at slower speeds. Certainly a better zig pattern would be a nice addition other than the little zig they do when noticed, even then they usually slow down. I like the better zig pattern Duc included with TMO, but still not enough. In about 90% of the books I've read most capital ships were missed due to speed. You only find a few times where subs were able to do end arounds.