Mosque at Ground Zero? What's the latest?

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...t_ground_zero/


I remember hearing about this several months ago and was appalled by the idea! Is this still in the works? Does anyone know the latest on this proposal! Please tell me it didn't get approved! That WOULD BE a slap in the face to the 9/11 victims, their families, and Americans alike IMHO!

[tater]

This is why we need 100% separation of church and State.

The trouble with a Mosque there---it would be illegal to prevent a Mosque but not a church, for example---is that there are likely laws on the books that change the zoning of NON-religious building nearby. Many cities forbid bars within a certain distance of churches (or mosques), for example.

All zoning laws that relate to places of worship as "special" should be abolished.

Maybe we could pitch together and put in a titty bar next door to the mosque to piss them off?

[Zachstar]

From what I understand it got approved. Likely because the racist hatemongers who wanted it denied made it national issue overnight.

Haha!

[Platapus]

Perhaps it was approved because it was not at "ground zero" (A term I absolutely hate) but two blocks away.

[tater]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

From what I understand it got approved. Likely because the racist hatemongers who wanted it denied made it national issue overnight.

Haha!

How is disliking a set of ideas, voluntarily held, "racist?"

Is disliking nazis similarly "racist?" How about disliking the members of the Westborough (sp?) Baptist Church ("god hates fags")—is that "racist" as well?

Maybe it's just that I don't assign religion as an indelible trait as you apparently do. I was raised Catholic, but I'm an atheist, am I always a Catholic because I have "catholic blood?"

[Skybird]

I said it in two different threads before, and I say it again: having a mosque build at ground zero or close to it, compares to having an NSDAP education centre for a "balanced view on German history" near the KZ of Auschwitz.

Americans should not tolerate it, should accept no compromise, and block it - no matter the means necessary.

[Platapus]

Skybird,

What possible harm could it be to have an Mosque in NYC? There are thousands of Muslims in NYC who have done no one any harm.

Besides there is already a mosque at this location and no one has caught any Mooooslim cooties yet.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Skybird,

What possible harm could it be to have an Mosque in NYC? There are thousands of Muslims in NYC who have done no one any harm.

What harm could it have to have that NSDAP culture centre near Auschwitz? Remember that many Germans did not know that KZs like Auschwitz were planned, built and maintained

Maybe the damage coming from mocking the victims? legitimising the perpetrators by giving them arespectable appearancxe? Implying that the ideology motivating the deed has nothing to do with the deed?

Islam always marches forward agressively - and claims to be the victim of supression and racism and and cultural pressure. Maybe you still fall that scheme. I, and more and more other people as well, do not. We call islam no longer a victim of the evil, but the source of the evil. That german who were no Nazis at all got killed by the Nazis too, does not mean that Nazi ideology was any less harmful.

If you want to be taken serious in your claims that you are a democrat, not a Nazi, that you dispise Hitler and his ideology, that you are a liberal humanist and philantropist and that you could not wish anyone any harm, maybe it would be more convincing if you not only produce such words in candy cream and endless volumes to gloss over the Nazi ideology and the the crimes it has caused - but by taking that picture of Hitler off the wall, taking of that swastika sticker on your jacket, stop paying contributitons to Nauzi organisation hidden or evident, and stop raising the straight right arm for a greeting.

P.S. regarding that other mosque - bring it down, and any other you find in the West. Else the religion of peace will bring you down: you, your Western value order, and your constitutional rights and guarantees, and finally your religion, or lack of. This cultural fight is forced upon you, whether you like it or not, whether you accept it or not, whether you fight back or not. If this fight gets lost, the western culture - in good and bad - is lost. Simply that. the future then will be totalitarian-islamic, based on medieval ideals and mindsets, a disgrace to humanity and delaring the female half of mankind a subordinate species of slaves. Welcome to the dark age 2.0.

[August]

So this Muslim exclusionary zone you guys want to create around the WTC, how far should it extend? 2 blocks?, 10?, off Manhattan island completely?

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Skybird

P.S. regarding that other mosque - bring it down, and any other you find in the West. Else the religion of peace will bring you down: you, your Western value order, and your constitutional rights and guarantees, and finally your religion, or lack of. This cultural fight is forced upon you, whether you like it or not, whether you accept it or not, whether you fight back or not. If this fight gets lost, the western culture - in good and bad - is lost. Simply that. the future then will be totalitarian-islamic, based on medieval ideals and mindsets, a disgrace to humanity and delaring the female half of mankind a subordinate species of slaves. Welcome to the dark age 2.0.

Pat Condell tried to send us a similar message some time ago:

http://www.youtube.com/patcondell#p/u/9/KjSjpNe1-Vc

Originally Posted by Skybird

I said it in two different threads before, and I say it again: having a mosque build at ground zero or close to it, compares to having an NSDAP education centre for a "balanced view on German history" near the KZ of Auschwitz.

Americans should not tolerate it, should accept no compromise, and block it - no matter the means necessary.

Exactly Skybird!

Originally Posted by Zachstar

From what I understand it got approved. Likely because the racist hatemongers who wanted it denied made it national issue overnight.

Haha!

Perhaps they should have built a monument of Yamash!ta at Pearl Harbor Zachstar!

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by thorn69

Exactly Skybird!



Perhaps they should have built a monument of Yamash!ta at Pearl Harbor Zachstar!

If it is within the law that is perfectly fine. I guess that Nova episode where that Admiral from Japan prayed and said a eulogy for sailors of a IJN minisub that failed to escape enraged you eh?

You see this is 2010 not 1949 2010 not 2001. 9-11 is the past and the hatred has subsided somewhat. It is over and it is time to move on.

Originally Posted by Zachstar

If it is within the law that is perfectly fine. I guess that Nova episode where that Admiral from Japan prayed and said a eulogy for sailors of a IJN minisub that failed to escape enraged you eh?

You see this is 2010 not 1949 2010 not 2001. 9-11 is the past and the hatred has subsided somewhat. It is over and it is time to move on.

You are living in a fantasy world if you think the hatred has subsided. It's only intensified! Al-Qaeda is still actively seeking your destruction but you're too liberal minded to care. You should be thanking your lucky stars that there are men and women out there watching out for people like you!

[Platapus]

Not including the terrorist apostates, 23 Muslims died in the 911 attacks. (This represents 0.75% of the total number of victims. Muslims, in general, represent 0.6% of the population of the United States so the ratio of Muslims that died in the 911 attacks tracks with their ratio to the population.)

http://crosswordbebop.blogspot.com/2...1-attacks.html

Don't the families and communities of those 23 Islamic VICTIMS deserve a place of worship near the attack site? Of did these Muslim victims only "get what they and all Muslims deserve"?

Muslims did not attack us on 911. Muslim apostate terrorists attacked us. I would be all in favour if someone wanted to prevent a Salafi mosque being built there. But not a ban on any type of Muslim Mosque.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I said it in two different threads before, and I say it again: having a mosque build at ground zero or close to it, compares to having an NSDAP education centre for a "balanced view on German history" near the KZ of Auschwitz.

Americans should not tolerate it, should accept no compromise, and block it - no matter the means necessary.

Enough skybird. There is no comparason between the two and you know it.