A Message To All of the Members of this Forum

[Das Gespenst]

Originally Posted by John Channing

I've been a member of this forum since 1997, since the very beginning. I started as a poster, moved (briefly) through modding, became a contributor, staff writer and finally a moderator. I have lived through the Fast Attack, 688i, Sub Command, Fleet Command, Dangerous Waters, Sh2, Sh3 and SH4 wars. As heated as the discussions got ( and yes... I was right in the middle there from time to time) the one thing that always struck me was that most of the members here were able to discuss matters with a level of respect for each other and the people who enable our hobby/passion.

Lately that seems to be missing.

So I would like to remind everyone that one of the things that makes this forum popular is the level of maturity and civility that is not common on many other forums. Whether you like a game, like SH5, or not; maybe you're worried about this or that feature, maybe you are unhappy or overjoyed with the way the game is shaping up: discussions here should be reasonable and intelligent. Say what you want, but let's avoid overblown rants and tantrums.

Please keep in this mind when you are discussing issues here.

Thanks

JCC

I agree with you sir. I have been browsing many forums for a long time and this one is one of the best!

[Ships-R-Us]

2 days ago I refused to view any SH5 forums for that reason. It made my blood boil and took up 26% of all posts. I am happy in the other forums learning constructive things such as politics.......
I "10-4" that John.

[capthelm]

totally agree here enough of the ranting trolling in here.

start to think positive on sh5..

[JScones]

You know, comments like "SH5 will be the most awesomeness thing ever" don't bother me. Comments like "SH5 will be the worst thing ever in the history of the universe" don't bother me (and I hate hyperbole - all credibility disappears whenever I read such comments). But what does bother me are "Your opinion is wrong and thus you are an idiot because whilst I haven't seen the game I know I am righter than you" comments...regardless of whether the maker of said comments is in the "positive" or "negative" camp.

Next to no-one here has seen the game, so how can anyone judge the game, either way to empower them enough to tell others that their opposing view is wrong?

Fine to opine...but when it comes at the expense of personally ridiculing others (and that includes "STFU and stop whining" comments), I think it's a bit rich.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by JScones

You know, comments like "SH5 will be the most awesomeness thing ever" don't bother me. Comments like "SH5 will be the worst thing ever in the history of the universe" don't bother me (and I hate hyperbole - all credibility disappears whenever I read such comments). But what does bother me are "Your opinion is wrong and thus you are an idiot because whilst I haven't seen the game I know I am righter than you" comments...regardless of whether the maker of said comments is in the "positive" or "negative" camp.

Next to no-one here has seen the game, so how can anyone judge the game, either way to empower them enough to tell others that their opposing view is wrong?

Fine to opine...but when it comes at the expense of personally ridiculing others (and that includes "STFU and stop whining" comments), I think it's a bit rich.

Hear hear Jaeson. I'm not into making anything up eitehr as there is enough BS to go round already, however I will certainly opine away if there is a lack of concrete material pointing at any facts. This in fact is merely human nature.

[Reece]

It was actually me who said "No rough seas" referring to the snapshots and videos shown of SH5 so far, I haven't seen anyone say that there is none, only the Devs can say that, until it's released!

[IanC]

Originally Posted by capthelm

totally agree here enough of the ranting trolling in here.

start to think positive on sh5..

I've realized in life some people actually get energy from negativity, while for most others, it just drains us.
The encouragement toward bashing a game that's not out yet and/or the spreading of silly rumors (like the no rough seas one) is a real head scratcher for me.
Like I said, some people just enjoy doing it I guess.

[SteamWake]

Good post JC ... will it help... well lets hope so.

[JScones]

Originally Posted by IanC

I've realized in life some people actually get energy from negativity, while for most others, it just drains us.
The encouragement toward bashing a game that's not out yet and/or the spreading of silly rumors (like the no rough seas one) is a real head scratcher for me.
Like I said, some people just enjoy doing it I guess.

I don't think Webster was maliciously intending to spread a silly rumour about there being no rough seas. I think it was an honest belief. He may have misread, forgotten, who knows, but to imply that it was a deliberate attempt at spreading a silly rumour is a real head scratcher for me, IMHO of course.

[IanC]

Originally Posted by JScones

I don't think Webster was maliciously intending to spread a silly rumour about there being no rough seas. I think it was an honest belief. He may have misread, forgotten, who knows, but to imply that it was a deliberate attempt at spreading a silly rumour is a real head scratcher for me, IMHO of course.

Actually I had you in mind, not Webster. Nice attempt to twist yet another post around (I've seen it many times from you). IMHO of course.

[Andrew82]

Originally Posted by John Channing

I've been a member of this forum since 1997, since the very beginning. I started as a poster, moved (briefly) through modding, became a contributor, staff writer and finally a moderator. I have lived through the Fast Attack, 688i, Sub Command, Fleet Command, Dangerous Waters, Sh2, Sh3 and SH4 wars. As heated as the discussions got ( and yes... I was right in the middle there from time to time) the one thing that always struck me was that most of the members here were able to discuss matters with a level of respect for each other and the people who enable our hobby/passion.

Lately that seems to be missing.

So I would like to remind everyone that one of the things that makes this forum popular is the level of maturity and civility that is not common on many other forums. Whether you like a game, like SH5, or not; maybe you're worried about this or that feature, maybe you are unhappy or overjoyed with the way the game is shaping up: discussions here should be reasonable and intelligent. Say what you want, but let's avoid overblown rants and tantrums.

Please keep in this mind when you are discussing issues here.

Thanks

JCC

Good posting!!

This is by far the most mature and respectful forum I've ever been on, and I like it very much!

I have read all the SHV topics but never replied on one, we'll see the game it when it get there, until then don't complain. You can always stay with SHIV or SHIII, you are not obligated too buy SHV and it will certainly not ruin your life if it does not meet all of your expectations. Don't worry, be happy. There's a lot more sh*t going on in the world to worry about...

my 2 cents

[verte]

Originally Posted by John Channing

So I would like to remind everyone that one of the things that makes this forum popular is the level of maturity and civility that is not common on many other forums. Whether you like a game, like SH5, or not; maybe you're worried about this or that feature, maybe you are unhappy or overjoyed with the way the game is shaping up: discussions here should be reasonable and intelligent. Say what you want, but let's avoid overblown rants and tantrums.

Please keep in this mind when you are discussing issues here.

The maturity of a large part of users of this forum is the first and most important reason of my joining the discussion. Personally I don't want to have any relationship with abysmally stupid behaviour of internet trolls and all this "lolchat" subculture. It's really nice to find here normal and serious people

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by John Channing

I've been a member of this forum since 1997, since the very beginning. I started as a poster, moved (briefly) through modding, became a contributor, staff writer and finally a moderator. I have lived through the Fast Attack, 688i, Sub Command, Fleet Command, Dangerous Waters, Sh2, Sh3 and SH4 wars. As heated as the discussions got ( and yes... I was right in the middle there from time to time) the one thing that always struck me was that most of the members here were able to discuss matters with a level of respect for each other and the people who enable our hobby/passion.

Lately that seems to be missing.

So I would like to remind everyone that one of the things that makes this forum popular is the level of maturity and civility that is not common on many other forums. Whether you like a game, like SH5, or not; maybe you're worried about this or that feature, maybe you are unhappy or overjoyed with the way the game is shaping up: discussions here should be reasonable and intelligent. Say what you want, but let's avoid overblown rants and tantrums.

Please keep in this mind when you are discussing issues here.

Thanks

JCC

Great post JCC

Courtesy, civility and respect cost nothing and are always more gratifying when reciprocated.

[Vikinger]

This forum have allways been a good forum for me to get information and constructive feedback.

Its so much more than just a gaming forum.
There is so many people that have so much intresst and knowleadge about history,ww2 and submarines so i really enjoy to reading what people know and what they have to say.

Ive learned a lot from this forum about an intresst we all share.

For me its important to have a civil and mature conversation and on this forum i get that. We have most of the times treated each other whit respect, even if we sometimes dont agree whit each other, just like we do whit our real life friends.

Dont let this forum turn into one of thos many others flamming gaming forum.

If they cant behavie, deny them acces and direct them to the official gaming forum instead.

Vikinger.