'Nother New Song

Sailor Steve · 01-07-10, 12:42 AM

Well, we're at it again. Just before Christmas we started recording a song by our front man Charles, a quasi-metal song called 'Cry Wolf'.

Like 'Childhood Dreams' it's not completely finished - we've added a couple of harmonies that aren't on this take and it needs a little more mixing, but we like to share what we're up to, so here it is.
http://www.myspace.com/monkeyrumband

Oh, and it's time to let everybody in on a little secret: Our official logo

was created at my request by our very on Torplexed!

01-07-10, 01:44 AM

It needs more melody.
Your last was much more appealing to me, but then again, it's not finished yet, right?

jimbob · 01-07-10, 02:39 AM

This kind of music is not my cup of tea really but I'll give some feedback, want it or not.
I'm more into 1 guitar, swingy stuff these days.

Vocals sound pretty good. Extra points for that.

Bass is kinda bumby, but that is easy to fix on the mix.
Maybe add some compressor on it. No big deal.

Rythm guitar(s) could be a little louder. Especially in metally type of songs
with Eeevil riffs I want to hear what's going on.
Try losing some reverb on rythm guitars, it will bring them forward.
Reverbs are cool in solos but folks over do it easily.

Drums also need attention in the mix, bass-drum needs more snap, cymbals are
too quiet.
(Losing My Mind in myspace has perty good drum mix)

About the intro in Cry Wolf, lead guitar, arpeggios are something that has to go/be in time.
Takes a lot of time and I mean a lot to make it work.
IMO if the sweeping is not "in the pocket" it's not cool to listen.

There's seem to be some timing issues over all, can't really hear it but the band feels a little sloppy.
That can be fixed with rehearsing without tons of reverbs and rehearsing that
personal/technical stuff at home with metronome.
That Metronome is the only shortcut on that. Drum machines work too,
or anything with a steady pulse.

If you play metal stuff, it has to be tight. There's no such thing as sloppy-metal, especially in rhythm parts.

About the Cry Wolf song itself, that is allrite. Melodys and ideas are cool.

Listening to some broken string bluesy stuff on teh MySpace which is more on my alley,
I'd say them guitarist could try some chords like 6, 9 and even 13's in some places,
could be cool.
Or maybe not. But it won't hurt to try.

Especially with 2 guitarist band it is important that the guys don't play the same stuff exactly
or it might start sound boring, atleast for me as another guitar player. :P

That is in teh Blues, playing the the same riffs with 2 guitars on a Metal song
is very cool but only if it's tight enuff.

Barre 7th chords does the same to me like singers starting "I woke up this morning..." well, sort of.
Maybe that's a matter of taste in the end.

Oh my , this all sounds maybe a little too critical and it could be the fact that its morning
and I'm on my first cup of coffee today.

Nothing personal here but just some of my thoughts on what I'm hearing.
Also, I did try to be gentle since we're on public forums.

Anyways, keep it up and don't give up.

Sailor Steve · 01-07-10, 02:39 AM

Well the extra harmonies will add to the feel, but won't really change much. This one is just a bit heavier than some of the others.

I'm not really a big metal fan myself, but the two guitar players are, and we pride ourselves on our variety. My friend hated this song, but admitted it's not his style. I know we're not going to please everybody. No one can do that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob

Also, I did try to be gentle since we're on public forums.

It's okay. I have my own opinions about us, not all of them good.

jimbob · 01-07-10, 03:16 AM

Variety is cool but it also means you gotta master more styles.

f.e. playing metal rythm guitar and bluesy stuff is 2 rather different ball games in my book.
Soundwise and technically.

Overall I'd still say the main point is to have fun, enjoy the whole band-experience cuz
when that ends its downhill from there...

I tend to focus on the playing the panjo a lot but change lyrics on the fly just to make ppl laff.
Even a change in languages can give good waffles sometimes.

In concerts or in out rehearsing.
That started in the garage cuz I wanted to do something unexpected sort of
like what's going to happen in live situations.
My band mates haven't played really long so they're easily put off by
me goofing around.

But we play the type of music that goofing about is somewhat possible.
It's not that serious to begin with.

It's important to me that we have good times with the band.
That also reflects to the audience. If the band is enjoying the gig it does
have sort of an impact for audience.

Well, thats the ideal situation I suppose, we know that things does not go that way always.

Hope for best, prepare for unexpected!

01-07-10, 12:42 AM	#1
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	'Nother New Song Well, we're at it again. Just before Christmas we started recording a song by our front man Charles, a quasi-metal song called 'Cry Wolf'. Like 'Childhood Dreams' it's not completely finished - we've added a couple of harmonies that aren't on this take and it needs a little more mixing, but we like to share what we're up to, so here it is. http://www.myspace.com/monkeyrumband Oh, and it's time to let everybody in on a little secret: Our official logo was created at my request by our very on Torplexed! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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01-07-10, 01:44 AM	#2
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	It needs more melody. Your last was much more appealing to me, but then again, it's not finished yet, right?

01-07-10, 02:39 AM	#3
jimbob Ensign Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suomi Finland Posts: 225 Downloads: 365 Uploads: 6	This kind of music is not my cup of tea really but I'll give some feedback, want it or not. I'm more into 1 guitar, swingy stuff these days. Vocals sound pretty good. Extra points for that. Bass is kinda bumby, but that is easy to fix on the mix. Maybe add some compressor on it. No big deal. Rythm guitar(s) could be a little louder. Especially in metally type of songs with Eeevil riffs I want to hear what's going on. Try losing some reverb on rythm guitars, it will bring them forward. Reverbs are cool in solos but folks over do it easily. Drums also need attention in the mix, bass-drum needs more snap, cymbals are too quiet. (Losing My Mind in myspace has perty good drum mix) About the intro in Cry Wolf, lead guitar, arpeggios are something that has to go/be in time. Takes a lot of time and I mean a lot to make it work. IMO if the sweeping is not "in the pocket" it's not cool to listen. There's seem to be some timing issues over all, can't really hear it but the band feels a little sloppy. That can be fixed with rehearsing without tons of reverbs and rehearsing that personal/technical stuff at home with metronome. That Metronome is the only shortcut on that. Drum machines work too, or anything with a steady pulse. If you play metal stuff, it has to be tight. There's no such thing as sloppy-metal, especially in rhythm parts. About the Cry Wolf song itself, that is allrite. Melodys and ideas are cool. Listening to some broken string bluesy stuff on teh MySpace which is more on my alley, I'd say them guitarist could try some chords like 6, 9 and even 13's in some places, could be cool. Or maybe not. But it won't hurt to try. Especially with 2 guitarist band it is important that the guys don't play the same stuff exactly or it might start sound boring, atleast for me as another guitar player. :P That is in teh Blues, playing the the same riffs with 2 guitars on a Metal song is very cool but only if it's tight enuff. Barre 7th chords does the same to me like singers starting "I woke up this morning..." well, sort of. Maybe that's a matter of taste in the end. Oh my , this all sounds maybe a little too critical and it could be the fact that its morning and I'm on my first cup of coffee today. Nothing personal here but just some of my thoughts on what I'm hearing. Also, I did try to be gentle since we're on public forums. Anyways, keep it up and don't give up.

01-07-10, 03:16 AM	#5
jimbob Ensign Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suomi Finland Posts: 225 Downloads: 365 Uploads: 6	Variety is cool but it also means you gotta master more styles. f.e. playing metal rythm guitar and bluesy stuff is 2 rather different ball games in my book. Soundwise and technically. Overall I'd still say the main point is to have fun, enjoy the whole band-experience cuz when that ends its downhill from there... I tend to focus on the playing the panjo a lot but change lyrics on the fly just to make ppl laff. Even a change in languages can give good waffles sometimes. In concerts or in out rehearsing. That started in the garage cuz I wanted to do something unexpected sort of like what's going to happen in live situations. My band mates haven't played really long so they're easily put off by me goofing around. But we play the type of music that goofing about is somewhat possible. It's not that serious to begin with. It's important to me that we have good times with the band. That also reflects to the audience. If the band is enjoying the gig it does have sort of an impact for audience. Well, thats the ideal situation I suppose, we know that things does not go that way always. Hope for best, prepare for unexpected!