Stupid newbie mistake?

irishcommander · 10-20-09, 04:20 AM

Bought SH3, patched and got GWX and embarked on my first mission out of Konigsberg however any time i get near base I seem to get blown out of the water by my own defenses. I know i'm missing something very basic here but would appreciate any pointers.

I've tried it a few times and have been shot up by coastal batteries on the way in but I got closest today, just outside the port, however the whole place lit up like a christmas tree and a naval artillery barge sank one of its own ships before sinking me...what am i doing wrong

JuanCudz · 10-20-09, 05:58 AM

Starting in Konigsburg suggests you are starting your career in august '39? I have never done that myself, but some options to try,
1) start in September, Kiel or Wilhelmshaven
2) Install SH3 commander and it will allow the option 'Start at sea'. You'll be teleported out the dock to several miles out to sea and might get past the defenses.
Good Hunting!

Wreford-Brown · 10-20-09, 06:04 AM

When you sink a 'neutral' ship, you automatically become the enemy of all neutral ships for 24 hours. As your first GWX mission takes place before the war breaks out, all ships are neutral so you become the enemy of everybody. Try finishing your mission then press 'Esc' to return to base. Docking back home is impossible without sustaining some damage.

Draka · 10-20-09, 12:07 PM

As I routinely start in the 7th Flotilla in Koingsberg, I also routinely go out , following orders, and nail ALL of the target ships in AO98 - which makes me persona non grata to everyone as stated. But as your orders are basically to run drills and cruise around until you receive orders to "Return to Konigsberg and transfer to the 1st/2nd Flotilla" just crusing around in AO98 for two days after nailing everything in sight "clears" your infamy and you can then dock as normal. I consider it a matter of pride that I always end up at full stop exactly in the slip. This also gives you the first patrol success required so as to train your crew using SH3 Commander before the actual war starts!

Currently Adolf VonDraka, Befelshaber der U-50 on patrol ....

Wreford-Brown · 10-20-09, 01:28 PM

That should work, but please let us know how you get on.

Sailor Steve · 10-20-09, 01:46 PM

Those 'orders' are from GWX. I never sink anything until it becomes an enemy, at the first of September. Enjoy the sights, stay out of trouble and give your crew plenty of practice. The war comes soon enough.

irishcommander · 10-20-09, 01:53 PM

Thanks to all for the advice, will try it again this evening....sank a few ships in the original mission and never realised I was persona non grata, although I did suspect i had done something 'bad'.

Much appreciated

Jimbuna · 10-20-09, 01:56 PM

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!

Rafael · 10-20-09, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!

He did that, and see what has happened!

Red Heat · 10-20-09, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafael

He did that, and see what has happened!

He only must wait for the war starts and stop to be agressive to the neutral shipping and check her nationality before attacks it will help too!

Draka · 10-20-09, 08:17 PM

As stated, this is my routine lately. Leave Konigsberg on the 1st, have all targeting ships sunk by the 2nd, cruise in the lagoon well away from any ports/facilities/ships until I get the radio message on the fouth, then head for the barn - usually docking on the 5th. This has worked for my last six Kaleuns. Now if I can just last until I can transfer to those lovely sub pens in France .....

(Sub Commander retired two - one after 7 patrols, the other after only 4 - the rest died "Being More Aggressive") - haven't made it to the fall of France yet ......

Jimbuna · 10-21-09, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafael

He did that, and see what has happened!

10-20-09, 04:20 AM	#1
irishcommander Nub Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Stupid newbie mistake? Bought SH3, patched and got GWX and embarked on my first mission out of Konigsberg however any time i get near base I seem to get blown out of the water by my own defenses. I know i'm missing something very basic here but would appreciate any pointers. I've tried it a few times and have been shot up by coastal batteries on the way in but I got closest today, just outside the port, however the whole place lit up like a christmas tree and a naval artillery barge sank one of its own ships before sinking me...what am i doing wrong

10-20-09, 05:58 AM	#2
JuanCudz Watch Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 28 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Starting in Konigsburg suggests you are starting your career in august '39? I have never done that myself, but some options to try, 1) start in September, Kiel or Wilhelmshaven 2) Install SH3 commander and it will allow the option 'Start at sea'. You'll be teleported out the dock to several miles out to sea and might get past the defenses. Good Hunting! __________________ "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

10-20-09, 06:04 AM	#3
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	When you sink a 'neutral' ship, you automatically become the enemy of all neutral ships for 24 hours. As your first GWX mission takes place before the war breaks out, all ships are neutral so you become the enemy of everybody. Try finishing your mission then press 'Esc' to return to base. Docking back home is impossible without sustaining some damage. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

10-20-09, 01:28 PM	#5
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	That should work, but please let us know how you get on. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

10-20-09, 01:46 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Those 'orders' are from GWX. I never sink anything until it becomes an enemy, at the first of September. Enjoy the sights, stay out of trouble and give your crew plenty of practice. The war comes soon enough. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-20-09, 12:07 PM	#4
Draka Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 256 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	As I routinely start in the 7th Flotilla in Koingsberg, I also routinely go out , following orders, and nail ALL of the target ships in AO98 - which makes me persona non grata to everyone as stated. But as your orders are basically to run drills and cruise around until you receive orders to "Return to Konigsberg and transfer to the 1st/2nd Flotilla" just crusing around in AO98 for two days after nailing everything in sight "clears" your infamy and you can then dock as normal. I consider it a matter of pride that I always end up at full stop exactly in the slip. This also gives you the first patrol success required so as to train your crew using SH3 Commander before the actual war starts! Currently Adolf VonDraka, Befelshaber der U-50 on patrol ....

10-20-09, 01:53 PM	#7
irishcommander Nub Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks to all for the advice, will try it again this evening....sank a few ships in the original mission and never realised I was persona non grata, although I did suspect i had done something 'bad'. Much appreciated

10-20-09, 01:56 PM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!! __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-20-09, 08:17 PM	#11
Draka Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 256 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	As stated, this is my routine lately. Leave Konigsberg on the 1st, have all targeting ships sunk by the 2nd, cruise in the lagoon well away from any ports/facilities/ships until I get the radio message on the fouth, then head for the barn - usually docking on the 5th. This has worked for my last six Kaleuns. Now if I can just last until I can transfer to those lovely sub pens in France ..... (Sub Commander retired two - one after 7 patrols, the other after only 4 - the rest died "Being More Aggressive") - haven't made it to the fall of France yet ......

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