Hey UK you're irrelevant !

[SteamWake]

At least the current administration seems to think so.

Gordon Brown lurched from being hailed as a global statesman to intense embarrassment tonight, after it emerged US President Barack Obama had turned down no fewer than five requests from Downing Street to hold a bilateral meeting at the United Nations in New York or at the G20 summit starting in Pittsburgh today.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...on-brown-talks

[Oberon]

It's Gordon Brown, even his own people think he's irrelevant.

Can't blame Obama for not wanting to talk to him, the guy has as much life as a dead raddish.

[jumpy]

Can anyone say 'Special Relationship'?

Oberon is quite right, there's not many folk here who have any respect or time for winky.

[Dowly]

Cant anyone kick him out?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Cant anyone kick him out?

We didn't even vote him in! He won't make it through the next election, you could probably put money on it. I'd say that the Tories will make a comeback next year, and they're not much better. All a bit rock and hard place really.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Oberon

We didn't even vote him in! He won't make it through the next election, you could probably put money on it. I'd say that the Tories will make a comeback next year, and they're not much better. All a bit rock and hard place really.

Camerons a dick, Im not a fan of brown either but the Tories suck balls!
In the trash they posted though our door, they refered to the Bankers recession as: 'gordon browns' recession.
That statment alone is grounds enough to never vote for them, EVER!
How dare they insult the voters intelligence with that kind of slander!

Cant be bothered with politicians anymore, they lie, lie, and lie some more.
they make half their decisions based on self intreast anf financial incentives.

In our so called Democracy we have 2 major Political parties, One one screws up? the opposition claims they can do it better,
so we vote them in, when nothing changes they blame it on 'mess' left behind by their predecessors.

Repeat the above for eternity.

... and they wonder why so many young people dont bother registering on the electorial role.

[Hakahura]

Hey UK you're irrelevant!

Close
I think it's just the 1 eyed porridge gobbler who's irrelevant!
He's out of a job in less than a year and a walking political corpse.
He never won an election, or a mandate to govern and never will.
If I were in Obama's shoes I wouldn't want to talk to him either.
I wouldn't talk to him in my own shoes FFS.
Hopefully once the useless parasitic retards gone we'll be back to business as usual.
Do I hate Brown?
Damn right I do.



End rant.

[KPT.H0LZ]

Fair play to Obama, he realises Gordon Brown has the life expectancy of a Cream cake at weight-watchers!

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by KPT.H0LZ

Fair play to Obama, he realises Gordon Brown has the life expectancy of a Cream cake at weight-watchers!

LOL his second post and made me laugh

Welcome btw

[XabbaRus]

Hmm I don't know what to make of this.

When I hear 'special relationship' I cringe.

Then again this isn't the first time Obama has been like this with the UK. May I remind you of the Churchill bust being sent back and the embarrassing presents for the Brown kids.

Sure I don't like Brown, and I think Cameron will be better. We need a change. However is this substantiated? I dunno..Personnally though I don't think this is a case of the UK being irrelevant but Obama looking down his nose. I'm getting fed up hearing about him now, he seems to be on our tele more than Brown is....

Seriously even over here it is Obama this, Obama that, oh isn't he lovely, he will save the world. Yea sure his talks with Russia over nukes is good, but I'm fed up of hearing about him....

[Shearwater]

Starting a thread about the UK is definitely giving that country too much attention.





My impression is just that in O.'s opinion Brown's a lame duck and that his days are numbered. Perhaps the financial crisis did help him a bit, but it can't last much longer than this.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by Oberon

We didn't even vote him in! He won't make it through the next election, you could probably put money on it. I'd say that the Tories will make a comeback next year, and they're not much better. All a bit rock and hard place really.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

[danlisa]

Ooo.

Politics within Politics......

Riveting.

[Skybird]

Reasons I could imagine:

1. As already said, there is nothing to be gained from being associated with Brown. quite the opposite.

2. It is a payback for the way London handled the Scottish release of the Lybian bomber.

3. Brown very likely sought support from the US for Britain blocking European attempts to tighten control of the financial business, which bankers in London do not want to hear of at all, since they have not learned anything, act as before again, and Hedgefonds already are marching again, with bank advisors throughout Europe already acting even worse than before the crisis. Not even the American government support that British attitude, and maybe this is Obama's way to tell Brown that he has to deal with the Europeans all alone on this.

4. Obama's pro-europe attitude is massively overestimated. Obama, different to his public image, is a relatively cold personality, not much interested in personal and warm relations to those officials he has to meet. He uses political representatives as he sees fit, personal warm relations he does not see as a precondition for that. Also, he has no special sympathy or feeling for Europe, since he has no relations whatever to it. It is very likely therefore that the European and especially British posture of always conjuring the close ties between America and Europe - simply are something he cannot perceive as something he wants to personally get involved with, not beyond the pragmatic and opportune use of that phrase in speeches.

5. And finally, the headline of the thread holds a grain of truth, too. Britain is not that important anymore. All Europe is not that important for America anymore. Obama has very clearly shifted American focus further to the Pacific and ME than any president before him, and sees greater priority in improving ties with Russia and China. Strategically he is absolutely right in doing so, since the potential Europe means is waining, not growing. That he did so in a less sensational and obvious way than others did and would have done in his place, does not change the deed's meaning. That he did it so silently only helped to keep European protest at a minimum. Most of European politicians do not even wish to see it.

There will be a day when America already will be happy with an Euroislamistan just not messing things up again and just not getting in the way while America sets eyes on the real important fields of global chess. And who would criticise the US for that. I can't.