Help?

Patboot · 07-23-09, 06:42 PM

Just for fun, I'm working on turning a Typ VII into an Alfa.
I've got the electric drive almost sorted out, except for that annoying 'porpoise' effect that I think is related to the the plane drag co-efficient.

My question is: Where do I find the file for max depth before damage?

I've looked in .cfg, /sub, even in the mini-tweaker.
There's a file for "max depth" but it didn't seem to make a difference.

Parameters: Depth 1500ft, speed 45kts+

This is just for fun, mind you, seeing how far the rubber will stretch, hehehe.

Graf Paper · 07-24-09, 07:09 AM

You'll likely need skwas' very well made and full featured utility for modifying some of the features you're describing. It's called Silent 3ditor, abbreviated as S3D, and you can find it here... S3D - Silent 3ditor Home

Although it was created for modding SH4, skwas also went the extra mile and built in support for SH3 as well!

To alter a u-boat's crush depth and maximum speed, as well as draught, drag, center of gravity, (and much more) you'll use S3D to open the .dat and .sim files for the specific boat you're working with.

S3D even allows you to import new models, like one for a Russian Alpha-class.

I hope this gives you a good starting place. Looking forward to seeing what you turn out!

Good luck!

Patboot · 07-24-09, 08:04 AM

Thanks, Graf. I was contemplating S3D, but at first look it seemed a little complicated. But if there's preset files, and a how-to, I think I'll take another look at it.

Imagine... pinged by a horde of DD's, going to 6oom, and burning off at 40 knots. Rifle back into it, go silent and float up to peri depth.

linerkiller · 07-24-09, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Patboot

Thanks, Graf. I was contemplating S3D, but at first look it seemed a little complicated. But if there's preset files, and a how-to, I think I'll take another look at it.

Imagine... pinged by a horde of DD's, going to 6oom, and burning off at 40 knots. Rifle back into it, go silent and float up to peri depth.

ah...you mean an Alpha submarine...for a moment I thought that you wanted to drive an Alfa Romeo car at sea!!!!
Excuse me...but that's a too funny misunderstanding!!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Task Force · 07-24-09, 08:51 AM

Lol, at first I thought he was saying he was gonna turn a VIIB into the alfa Romeo...:rotfl:

No but this sounds like a good Idea.

Patboot · 07-24-09, 11:22 AM

Don't make me get out the Cyrillic fonts.

Any tips for the 'planes? Seems to take forever to get steadied at depth.

Graf Paper · 07-24-09, 03:46 PM

That has more to do with mass than the planes (although you could try altering the coefficients for those), I believe.

Mass has a lot to do with how much "inertia" a vessel will have. This means a very heavy boat will resist levelling at high speed, when combine with buoyancy. Balancing mass and buoyancy has much to do with a stable boat.

Don't forget the game has an absolute limit to just how deep you can go. Imagine the world's oceans being like a hollow ball, with a blanket floating on top of and below the surface representing dry land and sea floor.

The thickness of the ball's skin represents the total depth of the ocean. This total depth is 350 meters. Go deeper than that and you'll get a CTD.

300 meters is the magic number. Depth charges cannot go past this depth, in the stock game.

Patboot · 07-24-09, 11:55 PM

I see.

300m...hmmm.

Yeah, i ujnderstand world graphics well enough- I play WWIIOL; the water is 1 pixel deep.
I just thought depth here was in the 1000m range.

07-23-09, 06:42 PM	#1
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Help? Just for fun, I'm working on turning a Typ VII into an Alfa. I've got the electric drive almost sorted out, except for that annoying 'porpoise' effect that I think is related to the the plane drag co-efficient. My question is: Where do I find the file for max depth before damage? I've looked in .cfg, /sub, even in the mini-tweaker. There's a file for "max depth" but it didn't seem to make a difference. Parameters: Depth 1500ft, speed 45kts+ This is just for fun, mind you, seeing how far the rubber will stretch, hehehe.

07-24-09, 07:09 AM	#2
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	You'll likely need skwas' very well made and full featured utility for modifying some of the features you're describing. It's called Silent 3ditor, abbreviated as S3D, and you can find it here... S3D - Silent 3ditor Home Although it was created for modding SH4, skwas also went the extra mile and built in support for SH3 as well! To alter a u-boat's crush depth and maximum speed, as well as draught, drag, center of gravity, (and much more) you'll use S3D to open the .dat and .sim files for the specific boat you're working with. S3D even allows you to import new models, like one for a Russian Alpha-class. I hope this gives you a good starting place. Looking forward to seeing what you turn out! Good luck! __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

07-24-09, 08:51 AM	#5
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Lol, at first I thought he was saying he was gonna turn a VIIB into the alfa Romeo...:rotfl: No but this sounds like a good Idea. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

07-24-09, 03:46 PM	#7
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	That has more to do with mass than the planes (although you could try altering the coefficients for those), I believe. Mass has a lot to do with how much "inertia" a vessel will have. This means a very heavy boat will resist levelling at high speed, when combine with buoyancy. Balancing mass and buoyancy has much to do with a stable boat. Don't forget the game has an absolute limit to just how deep you can go. Imagine the world's oceans being like a hollow ball, with a blanket floating on top of and below the surface representing dry land and sea floor. The thickness of the ball's skin represents the total depth of the ocean. This total depth is 350 meters. Go deeper than that and you'll get a CTD. 300 meters is the magic number. Depth charges cannot go past this depth, in the stock game. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

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07-24-09, 08:04 AM	#3
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks, Graf. I was contemplating S3D, but at first look it seemed a little complicated. But if there's preset files, and a how-to, I think I'll take another look at it. Imagine... pinged by a horde of DD's, going to 6oom, and burning off at 40 knots. Rifle back into it, go silent and float up to peri depth.

07-24-09, 11:22 AM	#6
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Don't make me get out the Cyrillic fonts. Any tips for the 'planes? Seems to take forever to get steadied at depth.

07-24-09, 11:55 PM	#8
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I see. 300m...hmmm. Yeah, i ujnderstand world graphics well enough- I play WWIIOL; the water is 1 pixel deep. I just thought depth here was in the 1000m range.