SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-25-09, 03:10 AM   #1
kiwi_2005
Eternal Patrol
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Aeoteroa
Posts: 7,382
Downloads: 223
Uploads: 1
Default Animal lover turns nasty

“She loves animals. She walks a few people’s dogs. A man down the road said she’d end up a vet.

Guy catches on video a 12 yr old girl beating a dog. WTH is wrong with some ppl. I haven't watch the video I don't think i could.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2391386.ece

Quote:
A DOG was filmed being beaten and kicked in a sickening attack — by a girl aged TWELVE.

The schoolgirl was seen kneeing, slapping and stamping on stunned springer spaniel Jasper in the 13-minute film.
She whipped him with his lead, then stood on his tail with one leg while kicking him with the other.


The girl is seen kicking the pup 14 times, kneeing it 26 times and hitting it with its lead eight times. She slaps it 17 times and stamps on it ten times.
Last night Jasper’s owner Ray Green, in his 60s, choked back tears after seeing the horrific film. Mr Green, who uses a mobility scooter, had let the girl — the daughter of a close pal — take the 18-month-old dog for walks.

But after seeing the video he said she would never walk Jasper again.
Mr Green, of Keighley, West Yorks, said: “I’ve seen enough.
“I can’t believe it. Jasper is a playful thing and is well-treated.
“She was supposed to be teaching him to walk on a lead. What she did is not right. I am really shocked.”
The girl’s family were stunned when they saw the video — and revealed they had thought that she was an “animal lover”. The family has a cat — and had planned to buy the girl a puppy.
Her stunned dad shook his head in disbelief after seeing the film with Mr Green and said: “I don’t understand where this has come from.


“She’ll not be getting a dog now. I can’t believe what I have just seen.”
He said he would be talking at length to his daughter — who he said would be “grounded”. The attack was filmed by a neighbour in a field near his home. The neighbour, who asked not to be named, said he filmed it as evidence after seeing previous abuse.

He said: “I’d seen her jerk his lead before but nothing like this. I couldn’t believe it. It looked like torture.
“The dog was cowering. It tried to defend itself but she just punched it hard. She should be banned from having a pet for at least ten years.
“In a few years she might be a babysitter and who knows what she might do. I couldn’t believe it was able to walk after all she had put it through.
“It must have been bruised all over. I hope the authorities take some action.”
__________________
RIP kiwi_2005



Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.



kiwi_2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 03:19 AM   #2
jumpy
Admiral
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Midlands, UK
Posts: 2,139
Downloads: 22
Uploads: 0
link has some unpleasant images

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2378625.ece

Where do these scum come from?

24 weeks jail?
Were it up to me I'd have that bastard strung up so only his toes touched the floor, leaving him to choke to 'kin death. Worthless lump of ****.
__________________

when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life


jumpy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 03:38 AM   #3
HunterICX
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Malaga, España
Posts: 10,750
Downloads: 8
Uploads: 0


Default

That girl deserves a kick under her butt so hard that she'll remember it for the rest of her life.

@Jumpy: thats a sick bastard indeed 24 weeks jail, what a joke

HunterICX
__________________
HunterICX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 04:07 AM   #4
Contact
Stowaway
 
Posts: n/a
Downloads:
Uploads:
Default

I think the problem concerning kids brutality on animals lies much deeper in the health of their psychology.

I think there has to be serious problems in this girls family. From what I've read if the kid is not treated well in his youth maybe frequent parents fight or common abuse on children from one of the parent. Prolonged events of jeer or grudge at school are also capable of calling this kind of behaviour for kids who are just entering teenage state of life.

Another explanation of this morbidous behaviour is when kid is doing something very bad but he treats it like some sort of "fun" since he does not understand fully what he do actually. He might take it as "playing" with dog or any other animal not realizing this is unnormal thing to do..

In any case if nobody pays attention to these kind of kids in early stage and fails to explain that this is very bad it might later lead to even biger mental dissorders..
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 04:12 AM   #5
Aramike
Ocean Warrior

Best of SUBSIM
Chairman
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 3,207
Downloads: 59
Uploads: 0
Default

As a side note, cheers to her parents for opting to see her behavior for what it is rather than making meaningless excuses.

Glad they grounded that lil biotch.

On a further side note, who's the douche bag behind the tree filming this rather than stopping it? She's 12 for chrissakes!
Aramike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 04:54 AM   #6
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 190,473
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

Needed to view the footage before I could believe how sick this young person must be.

Simple......lifetime ban from owning/keeping an animal.

__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!

Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 05:58 AM   #7
Platapus
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 19,361
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 0


Default

I am always very concerned when children are cruel to animals. I always wonder if it will escalate to cruelty to humans.

There is a correlation relationship (not a causality one yet) between animal cruelty to animals and violent crimes with humans.
__________________
abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.
Platapus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 11:11 AM   #8
NeonSamurai
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia
Posts: 3,044
Downloads: 25
Uploads: 0


Default

Ya there is a pretty strong correlation between animal violence and human violence and so far it seems to go from animal violence to human violence (weaker to stronger). But your correct there isn't causality, harming animals doesn't necessarily mean you will move on to humans, though the tendency does seem to exist.

As for the child, its quite possible that there is in fact nothing wrong with her family, that she is just naturally wired that way. At any rate she should be taken for a psychological evaluation, and treated based on the results.

I would also point out that children are by nature rather cruel, intolerant, and utterly self centered creatures. Its not uncommon for children to torture insects and small animals for amusement or out of curiosity (what happens if I do this).
NeonSamurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 11:26 AM   #9
mengle
Seasoned Skipper
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Belgium, mai 1940
Posts: 665
Downloads: 127
Uploads: 0
Default

that clip makes me sick and i just seen it half


Last edited by mengle; 04-25-09 at 02:38 PM.
mengle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 11:40 AM   #10
Dowly
Lucky Jack
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Finland
Posts: 25,052
Downloads: 32
Uploads: 0


Default

See, I've always told that dogs are farking stupid. The hell it's just sitting there taking the kicking and beating (yeh, I know, it's on a leash, but shouldnt prevent it from biting)? Dont know which is more retarded, the dog or the fat c**t.
Dowly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 11:49 AM   #11
mengle
Seasoned Skipper
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Belgium, mai 1940
Posts: 665
Downloads: 127
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dowly View Post
See, I've always told that dogs are farking stupid. The hell it's just sitting there taking the kicking and beating (yeh, I know, it's on a leash, but shouldnt prevent it from biting)? Dont know which is more retarded, the dog or the fat c**t.
iff you brake down that kind of dog from puppy, later hes going to be soft or very aggressive
you can have this with lions also is some circuses
mengle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 01:34 PM   #12
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 190,473
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mengle View Post
iff you brake down that kind of dog from puppy, later hes going to be soft or very aggressive
you can have this with lions also is some circuses
Which is probably where that young girl should be.....a geek in a travelling side show
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!

Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 02:15 PM   #13
Platapus
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 19,361
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dowly View Post
See, I've always told that dogs are farking stupid. The hell it's just sitting there taking the kicking and beating (yeh, I know, it's on a leash, but shouldnt prevent it from biting)? Dont know which is more retarded, the dog or the fat c**t.
Hmm good question.

Let's rewrite this to see if it applies to another abusive situtation...

See, I've always told that women are farking stupid. The hell they are just sitting there taking the kicking and beating (yeh, I know, she is in a relationship/marriage , but shouldnt prevent her from leaving)? Dont know which is more retarded.

The reasons the dog does not fight back are probably similar to the reasons an abused women does not fight back.

Both are abused
Both don't understand why
Both think it will get better
Both are committed to the relationship
Sadly, both are wrong.

Yet it happens every day

I hope you are not really blaming the victim in these cases are you?
__________________
abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.
Platapus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 02:25 PM   #14
Dowly
Lucky Jack
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Finland
Posts: 25,052
Downloads: 32
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Platapus View Post
I hope you are not really blaming the victim in these cases are you?
No, I never said I blamed the victim, I just said the dog is IMO stupid.

As for the woman part, she can always leave, go to the police if necessary. If she decides to not do that and just stay and get her teeth knocked down her throat, dont except any sympathy from me.

See, if you ask me, this guilty and victim thing is a wee bit too black/white. If the victim willingly stays and takes the beating, IMO he/she/it is partly guilty for letting it continue when there might be a way out.
Dowly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-09, 02:26 PM   #15
Kapt Z
Grey Wolf
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey.
Posts: 909
Downloads: 157
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Contact View Post
I think the problem concerning kids brutality on animals lies much deeper in the health of their psychology.

I think there has to be serious problems in this girls family. From what I've read if the kid is not treated well in his youth maybe frequent parents fight or common abuse on children from one of the parent. Prolonged events of jeer or grudge at school are also capable of calling this kind of behaviour for kids who are just entering teenage state of life.

Another explanation of this morbidous behaviour is when kid is doing something very bad but he treats it like some sort of "fun" since he does not understand fully what he do actually. He might take it as "playing" with dog or any other animal not realizing this is unnormal thing to do..

In any case if nobody pays attention to these kind of kids in early stage and fails to explain that this is very bad it might later lead to even biger mental dissorders..
All probably true, but you can't help wondering if some people are just 'bad'. No reason at all.....
Kapt Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.