SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > SHIII Mods Workshop
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-08-08, 07:08 AM   #1
VonDos
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 2,352
Downloads: 78
Uploads: 60


Default [WIP] "San Giorgio" italian armored cruiser

Hi everyone!
As said by Denis, greek Averof cruiser is extremely similar, in weapons configuration, to italian San Giorgio armored cruiser.
Funnels and masts are a little different, but this is easy to solve.




Give an eye:



While waiting for RMS Laconia, this can be another "small work"

San Giorgio data:

10167t -- 140,9 mt long -- 21 mt width -- 8 mt draft -- 23,2 knots speed
2 propellers -- 2 masts -- 2 funnels

4 x 254/35 mm (main armament)
8 x 190/45 mm (secondary armament)

A\A
10 x 47 mm
6 x 54 mm
12 x 20 mm
14 light mg 13,2 mm

ps i've found interesting things related with SS America; i've seen a wip british carrier in progress, so i think i'll return to liners soon ^_^
__________________

Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

Last edited by VonDos; 10-24-08 at 05:39 AM.
VonDos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 07:49 AM   #2
denis_469
Seasoned Skipper
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Russia
Posts: 700
Downloads: 136
Uploads: 0
Default

As you see in picture weapons was:
2 х 2 — 254-мм/45, 4x2 — 190-мм/45, 5 х 2 — 100-мм/47, 6x2 — 20-мм/65, 7x2 — 13,2-мм.
And all.
Other weapons was dismontle.
Speed 18,6 kts after modernisation.
denis_469 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 10:48 AM   #4
Reise
Stowaway
 
Posts: n/a
Downloads:
Uploads:
Default

Only last link Canberra is in game
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 03:11 PM   #5
geosub1978
Samurai Navy
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Salamis Base
Posts: 567
Downloads: 229
Uploads: 0
Default

With WW1 era configuration (two double funnels), San Giorgio was a much more beautiful ship. If you can wait, I can find some pictures.

For history, San Giorgio was the first steam turbine cruiser of the Italian Navy and was bombed in TOBRUK 1942 making her a total loss.
__________________
geosub1978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 04:54 PM   #6
VonDos
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 2,352
Downloads: 78
Uploads: 60


Default

FIRST ingame image °_°
there are a lot of errors, a\a guns need to be changed; platforms for a\a aren't placed, need revise coordinates ecc... ok; this is just first impression:




Please say me what do you think about this ^_^ advices, impressions ecc are welcome!
__________________

Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508
VonDos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 05:47 PM   #7
Buhring
Helmsman
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 108
Downloads: 122
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by geosub1978
For history, San Giorgio ... was bombed in TOBRUK 1942 making her a total loss.
That is not quite correct. San Giorgio was scuttled on january 22, 1941 by her own crew in Tobruk as per Italian Navy HQ orders, after having defended the harbour from English attacks for seven months.

The ship and her last commander, Stefano Pugliese, have been awarded the Medaglia d'oro al Valor Militare.

After the war, San Giorgio's wreck was refloated and towed away from Tobruk, in order to send it in Italy for demolition, but she broke the tow cables and sank in the Mediterranean.

VDOS: if you PM me a mail address, I can send you some photos and tables from the Giorgerini-Nani volume on Italian cruisers

Gute Jagd

HB
Buhring is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-08, 06:07 PM   #8
Reise
Stowaway
 
Posts: n/a
Downloads:
Uploads:
Default

Wasnt there a sister ship that the Germans took over in 43 ?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-08, 05:06 AM   #9
Buhring
Helmsman
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 108
Downloads: 122
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reise
Wasnt there a sister ship that the Germans took over in 43 ?
She was the San Marco, but she had been disarmed in 1929 and transformed in a remotely controlled target ship. The Germans captured her at La Spezia after the armistice (on sep. 9, 1943), but never employed her.

She was found sunk in the La Spezia harbour at the Liberation.

Gute Jagd

Buhring
Buhring is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-08, 05:13 AM   #10
Buhring
Helmsman
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 108
Downloads: 122
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VonDos
A\A
10 x 47 mm
6 x 54 mm
12 x 20 mm
14 light mg 13,2 mm
In the 1937-1938 refurbishment San Giorgio received 4 twin 100mm 47 cal. turrets; a fifth was fitted on the bow (along with more AA light guns) when the ship was ordered to serve as a stationary defense for Tobruk.

Gute Jagd

Buhring
Buhring is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-08, 10:47 AM   #11
geosub1978
Samurai Navy
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Salamis Base
Posts: 567
Downloads: 229
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buhring
That is not quite correct. San Giorgio was scuttled on january 22, 1941 by her own crew in Tobruk as per Italian Navy HQ orders, after having defended the harbour from English attacks for seven months.

The ship and her last commander, Stefano Pugliese, have been awarded the Medaglia d'oro al Valor Militare.

After the war, San Giorgio's wreck was refloated and towed away from Tobruk, in order to send it in Italy for demolition, but she broke the tow cables and sank in the Mediterranean.
HB
Hmm! My source is an old greek book...Anyway!
I noticed that on the right side of AVEROF's bridge, under the windows, there are some strange shadows, while on the left side there are not.
Am I wrong?
__________________
geosub1978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-08, 11:53 AM   #12
geosub1978
Samurai Navy
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Salamis Base
Posts: 567
Downloads: 229
Uploads: 0
Default

Also:

Check these WW1 era photos which look more interesting:

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.u...n_cruisers.htm

http://www.regiamarina.net/others/sa...giorgio_us.htm
__________________
geosub1978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-08, 11:50 PM   #13
Task Force
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: SPACE!!!!
Posts: 10,142
Downloads: 85
Uploads: 0
Default

Veary nice VonDos. As are all your ships.
__________________
Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"
Task Force is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-08, 09:02 AM   #14
C.V. Montobbio
Nub
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Camogli (Genoa) - Italy
Posts: 4
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

In the Official M.M.I. Web Site...

http://www.marina.difesa.it/storia/a...4/navi0417.asp

For Photos and Postal Documents:

http://www.baracchi.com/gianni/nave%...san_zorzo.html

For more info and historical data:

http://libri.dvd.it/storia-d%27europ...lio/id-296931/

Arremba San Zorso, Vita e Morte Dell'Incrociatore San Giorgio.


I'm at your disposal for translations, clarification and all possible questions. Sorry for my bad English and... Arrivederci .
__________________
C.V. Montobbio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-08, 06:20 AM   #15
VonDos
Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 2,352
Downloads: 78
Uploads: 60


Default

Thanks for infos ^^ really usefull!
__________________

Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508
VonDos is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.