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Old 10-11-08, 07:12 AM   #1
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Default That Silent Hunter IV World.....

...Really appears to be an alien world or at least a fictional one. Don't get yer dander up I'm just observing not complaining.

I go up to the bridge ,F4 view, and look up to see stars obscuring the clouds which for a certainty means that the stars are closer to earth than are the clouds.

Then take a gander at the magical mystery map..you know..the one that turns dark or light to indicate dawn, day,dusk and night..not where I am currently... but back at base thousands of miles away. I'll bet these weren't WWII standard issue maps.

But to get to the real point..take a look at this map:




I have never noticed it before but the entire Southern hemisphere is "DARK" compared to the Northern hemisphere which is "Light." Split, as you can see, into halves along the Equator.

Now after I saw this I was thinking...hmmmm... maybe the SHIV World rotates not from West to East but rather North to South...or even South to North. But no dice.

As it so happened I was steaming almost exactly along the equator when I made this observation. I then turned hard to port expecting to encounter nightfall. Instead, within a few miles I ran into heavy weather...gale force winds,heavy fog and heavy precipitation. So, I came about to head north of the equatorial line and I was back into entirely clear sailing in a matter of minutes.

So then that must mean that dark tinted portion of the map..i.e...the entire Southern Hemisphere..is gripped in a raging storm of Biblical proportions.. ...since surely nothing like this has occured since Noah's Flood....:hmm:

The SHIV world is indeed a strange one...but I like it never-the-less.

BTW...I'm weeks into the patrol now and the map is still divided into dark and light halves. On the way back to base I intend to dip south again just to see if that perfect storm is still in business.
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Old 10-11-08, 08:41 AM   #2
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Huh Ive never noticed this either the half darkend thing.

I pass off the map changing colors day/night to the change in the lighting on board the ship, although there would be no real change unless someone left a window open :rotfl:

This is the second time Ive seen someone say 'the stars are closer than the clouds' agin Ive never noticed this either.

My biggest 'ailen' moment is the way the clouds race accross the sky in good weather :hmm:
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Old 10-11-08, 09:00 AM   #3
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The somewhat darker southern hemisphere on the the map is ... just that! Of no other consequence in the game. Stars in front of clouds? Yeahp. Supersonic clouds? Of course!
Here is another one. Maybe not so obvious. Maybe I'm wrong...
Balao. Surfaced. Binoculars. Watch your prop water splashes. Seems that your props are rotating in the same direction.
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Old 10-11-08, 09:27 AM   #4
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Interesting Seminole! I too have never seen stars in front of the clouds. When it's foggy I can see things through the conning tower and through my crew, but only sometimes. When I'm running TMO and the escorts all have Superman aboard using his super x-ray vision, I just figure it's justice. I WANT to see through stuff, just to get even.

I realize I could get rid of the transparent solid objects by turning volumetric fog off, but I like the effect enough to put up with a minor annoyance. Yes the SH4 world is an alien one.
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Old 10-11-08, 09:43 AM   #5
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The somewhat darker southern hemisphere on the the map is ... just that!

If that is an accurate statement then I wonder why it has disappeared from my map now after a couple of more weeks at sea? The map has become once again a homogenous mixture of light and dark both north and south ...and in fact has developed a distinct east west division.????




And now is darkened on a East -West line as a matter of fact....

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Old 10-11-08, 09:47 AM   #6
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Interesting Seminole! I too have never seen stars in front of the clouds.
Equally interesting that you have never noticed this. It isn't a graphic card glitch either .

Just go on the bridge at dusk or dawn and watch the clouds "drift over the stars"....it is the stars that obscure the clouds rather than the other way around as it ought to be.

It is one of the first things I noticed about SHIV going back to ver.1.0...
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Old 10-11-08, 10:16 AM   #7
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Default I've noticed the light/dark at the equator

I figured it was a slight differential just to highlight the equatorial line. Never noticed a weather difference, will need to look into that next time I'm in the vicinity...

As far as the map changing, it is to simulate "rigging for red" at dusk and going back to normal lighting at dawn. It serves the purposes of (1) keeping night vision so if you have to go outside or look out without warning you won't be blind (can take 30 minutes or so to adjust vison to dark), and (2) keep some reference for crew as to night/day.
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The somewhat darker southern hemisphere on the the map is ... just that!

If that is an accurate statement then I wonder why it has disappeared from my map now after a couple of more weeks at sea? The map has become once again a homogenous mixture of light and dark both north and south ...and in fact has developed a distinct east west division.????
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And now is darkened on a East -West line as a matter of fact....
1. Is it my eyes... but there still is a North South shade variation west of the 170 deg meridien.
2. The added West East shade to the east of the ~170 meridien is supposed to be another lesson about life but you must ask Ubi or the modder for the specifics!:rotfl: Never seen that (stock 1.4 no mods). Crazy game!
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I figured it was a slight differential just to highlight the equatorial line
That is the whole point...and problem......if one considers it a problem..I rather think of it as a curiosity.

This very even light/dark division is not at all static...compare first screenie to the latter ones....if it were simply a geographical division then it would be a natural requirement that it remain a static division.... as the Equator never shifts.

I've never seen this before and after it did appear it only lasted a couple of weeks (in game weeks) a matter of an hour or less in real time.
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As far as the map changing, it is to simulate "rigging for red" at dusk and going back to normal lighting at dawn. It serves the purposes of (1) keeping night vision so if you have to go outside or look out without warning you won't be blind (can take 30 minutes or so to adjust vison to dark), and (2) keep some reference for crew as to night/day.

...Only problem with that theory is that the dawn,day, dusk,night lighting changes occur according to time shifts relative to your home base.

It does very little good to "rig for red" when it is broad daylight up on deck and it remains hours to nightfall at your current location.
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As far as the map changing, it is to simulate "rigging for red" at dusk and going back to normal lighting at dawn. It serves the purposes of (1) keeping night vision so if you have to go outside or look out without warning you won't be blind (can take 30 minutes or so to adjust vison to dark), and (2) keep some reference for crew as to night/day.

...Only problem with that theory is that the dawn,day, dusk,night lighting changes occur according to time shifts relative to your home base.

It does very little good to "rig for red" when it is broad daylight up on deck and it remains hours to nightfall at your current location.
Couple of things here, My map only turns 'red ish' when it is dusk till dawn locally. In fact I use it as a rough indicator of when the sun is setting so we can come up for fresh air.

"Rigged for red" was only used when the ship was preparing to surface after dark. It was done to allow the sailors pupils open and have better night vision. Under 'normal' conditions surfaced, submerged, day / night normal 'white' lighting was used. No they did not spend all night under red lighting. Some guys may have turned the lights down / off while sleeping.

I remember reading somewhere that modern subs alter lighting levels to simulate day / night cycle for moral purposes. See as how the boys literally havent seen the sun for months.
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Wow were sailing in a ailean world. Better look out for ufos, They might take my sub.
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Wow were sailing in a ailean world. Better look out for ufos, They might take my sub.
Haha your saying that but the first time I was on patrol I saw some glowing shapes floating in the air and getting closer to my periscope during an attack and I thought the martians had decided to watch . Then reality slapped me and I realised it was starshells
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Wow were sailing in a ailean world. Better look out for ufos, They might take my sub.
Haha your saying that but the first time I was on patrol I saw some glowing shapes floating in the air and getting closer to my periscope during an attack and I thought the martians had decided to watch . Then reality slapped me and I realised it was starshells
Maybe the martians were firing star shells?
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Wow were sailing in a ailean world. Better look out for ufos, They might take my sub.
Haha your saying that but the first time I was on patrol I saw some glowing shapes floating in the air and getting closer to my periscope during an attack and I thought the martians had decided to watch . Then reality slapped me and I realised it was starshells
Maybe the martians were firing star shells?
So the martians are on there side.
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