TMO without environmental mods? Please....

Stary Wuj · 01-28-09, 09:53 AM

Hello

I have too many small glitches, stuttering and flashes every few minutes because of environment improvements. I need help. I really like TMO mod with latest patch (realism options, command room graphics, many improvements) but I want to try without environment graphic mods (ROW and other env. elements).

Question: Is there any way to remove Environment improvements from TMO?
Which files/folders are responsible? I made backup of all SH4 original folder, so I can change files and folders to original, but which one?

Please, can someone help me. Mayby my rig is too old for new seafoam textures and other beautifull improvements, I have no choice.

EDIT: By the way, which version of TMO should I use with U-boat add-on, because after reading of few topics I'm little confused. Mayby I made some big mistake :-(

Thank You

Stary Wuj

Soundman · 01-28-09, 10:27 AM

The current version is 162 and there is a patch to go to 163. If you still have a problem, you could also try disabling some of graphics options.

Stary Wuj · 01-28-09, 10:39 AM

I'm confused, because: "TMO 1.7.6 is the version released before TMO 1.52, there are 2 versions of TMO 1.52 one for the U-Boat addon and one for SH4 patched to V1.4 you should be able to find the V1.4 version on Ducimus's filefront page."
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Disabling some of graphics options is not good solution, I want this game looks at least little better then SH3. I just want to remove Environmental from TMO, if it is possible.

Thank You

Stary Wuj

ReallyDedPoet · 01-28-09, 10:44 AM

Maybe send W-Clear a PM, as it is his Environmental Mod that is incorporated into Trigger, he may be able to help you with this.

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Stary Wuj · 01-28-09, 11:02 AM

I did

Good idea, thank You.

Stary Wuj

banjo · 01-28-09, 11:24 AM

You could also back up a revision or two. Install TMO 1.52. I don't beleive it includes and enviro package and if it did it was an earlier smaller version. It always worked fine for me.

Stary Wuj · 01-28-09, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo

You could also back up a revision or two. Install TMO 1.52. I don't beleive it includes and enviro package and if it did it was an earlier smaller version. It always worked fine for me.

TMO 1.52 is probably not compatible with U-boats add-on, and as far I remember there was
environmental mod too, of course older one and smaller.

EDIT. OK, I have an idea, in the full Trigger_Maru 1.6.2 there is a catalogue Optional Mods with "TMO_Old_Enviormentals",
I will try remove corresponding files from standard TMO 1.6.2

Stary Wuj

ReallyDedPoet · 01-28-09, 01:26 PM

Make sure you de-activate your current TMO before doing this

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Stary Wuj · 01-28-09, 01:38 PM

Yes, I will reinstall whole game. Mayby few times..............:rotfl:

W_clear · 01-29-09, 10:14 AM

TMO1.63 not fully use my environment MOD.In addition. I can assure you. My environment 5.0 does not affect the running speed .

Stary Wuj · 01-29-09, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W_clear

TMO1.63 not fully use my environment MOD.In addition. I can assure you. My environment 5.0 does not affect the running speed .

I will check every possibility, but I remember lower framerates with some "seafoam" changes, it was long ago. I really like eyecandy, especially Your water colors, but stuttering is much annoying than lower framerates for me. With older version of some environmental files and some settings modifications (Nvidia control panel - pre-rendered frames) stuttering is almost gone, framerate is much stable.
And, with older env files there is much less fog around, was too much, too often with clean, full version TMO 1.62+patch 1.63.

But don't worry and keep cool

Stary Wuj

W_clear · 01-29-09, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stary Wuj

Quote:

Originally Posted by W_clear

TMO1.63 not fully use my environment MOD.In addition. I can assure you. My environment 5.0 does not affect the running speed .

I will check every possibility, but I remember lower framerates with some "seafoam" changes, it was long ago. I really like eyecandy, especially Your water colors, but stuttering is much annoying than lower framerates for me. With older version of some environmental files and some settings modifications (Nvidia control panel - pre-rendered frames) stuttering is almost gone, framerate is much stable.
And, with older env files there is much less fog around, was too much, too often with clean, full version TMO 1.62+patch 1.63.

But don't worry and keep cool

Stary Wuj

You can try to use the "Environmental 5.0" coverage TMO1.63, I think it might be better.

tater · 01-29-09, 08:20 PM

The environmental mods murder my FR compared to stock with everything full bore. From over 100 stock, maybe sometimes fropping to 70, to 70-80, frequently dropping as low as 2 with either environmental mod.

2.

Seems to be the bow wakes. Burning stuff is pretty bad, too.

E6600, 8800gts.

I'd scrub them entirely out of my RFB install, but it also changes the sensor stuff.

I try not to leave the map, and I never go on deck anymore. Stock didn't look as good, but I got to see it, lol.

01-28-09, 09:53 AM	#1
Stary Wuj Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Poland, Zabrze Posts: 268 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	TMO without environmental mods? Please.... Hello I have too many small glitches, stuttering and flashes every few minutes because of environment improvements. I need help. I really like TMO mod with latest patch (realism options, command room graphics, many improvements) but I want to try without environment graphic mods (ROW and other env. elements). Question: Is there any way to remove Environment improvements from TMO? Which files/folders are responsible? I made backup of all SH4 original folder, so I can change files and folders to original, but which one? Please, can someone help me. Mayby my rig is too old for new seafoam textures and other beautifull improvements, I have no choice. EDIT: By the way, which version of TMO should I use with U-boat add-on, because after reading of few topics I'm little confused. Mayby I made some big mistake :-( Thank You Stary Wuj Last edited by Stary Wuj; 01-28-09 at 10:20 AM.

01-28-09, 10:44 AM	#4
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,885 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Maybe send W-Clear a PM, as it is his Environmental Mod that is incorporated into Trigger, he may be able to help you with this. RDP __________________ Back in the Day

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ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,885 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Make sure you de-activate your current TMO before doing this RDP __________________ Back in the Day

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01-28-09, 10:27 AM	#2
Soundman Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 617 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	The current version is 162 and there is a patch to go to 163. If you still have a problem, you could also try disabling some of graphics options.

01-28-09, 10:39 AM	#3
Stary Wuj Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Poland, Zabrze Posts: 268 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I'm confused, because: "TMO 1.7.6 is the version released before TMO 1.52, there are 2 versions of TMO 1.52 one for the U-Boat addon and one for SH4 patched to V1.4 you should be able to find the V1.4 version on Ducimus's filefront page." ------------------------------ Disabling some of graphics options is not good solution, I want this game looks at least little better then SH3. I just want to remove Environmental from TMO, if it is possible. Thank You Stary Wuj

01-28-09, 11:02 AM	#5
Stary Wuj Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Poland, Zabrze Posts: 268 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I did Good idea, thank You. Stary Wuj

01-28-09, 11:24 AM	#6
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	You could also back up a revision or two. Install TMO 1.52. I don't beleive it includes and enviro package and if it did it was an earlier smaller version. It always worked fine for me.

01-28-09, 01:38 PM	#9
Stary Wuj Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Poland, Zabrze Posts: 268 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Yes, I will reinstall whole game. Mayby few times..............:rotfl:

01-29-09, 10:14 AM	#10
W_clear Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	TMO1.63 not fully use my environment MOD.In addition. I can assure you. My environment 5.0 does not affect the running speed .

01-29-09, 08:20 PM	#13
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The environmental mods murder my FR compared to stock with everything full bore. From over 100 stock, maybe sometimes fropping to 70, to 70-80, frequently dropping as low as 2 with either environmental mod. 2. Seems to be the bow wakes. Burning stuff is pretty bad, too. E6600, 8800gts. I'd scrub them entirely out of my RFB install, but it also changes the sensor stuff. I try not to leave the map, and I never go on deck anymore. Stock didn't look as good, but I got to see it, lol.