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Old 08-20-08, 09:46 AM   #1
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Default Georgian solders "borrowed" by Russian troops

Some photos from the recent exchange of "strayed" solders.
There's lots of woods, rocks, mountains in Georgia...













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Old 08-20-08, 11:33 AM   #2
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The Russian and Georgian camo clothing is very similar. I might be confused as to which one is which especially in the heat of battle.
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Old 08-20-08, 11:39 AM   #3
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To my knowledge Georgian troops are dressed in MARPAT.
Russians have their own stuff. But camo is still camo.
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Old 08-20-08, 11:52 AM   #4
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Its like you get a hard on for watching Russia put simple people in pain. There is nothing to enjoy here. You're a sick man.

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Old 08-20-08, 11:59 AM   #5
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It's a war, man.
They started it.
Now it's VAE VICTIS time.

And BTW. They are not 'simple people'. They are solders.
Good solders don't surrender.
I guess, they've got bad US instructors who failed explain them that.
Good MARPAT camo though.
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Old 08-20-08, 12:03 PM   #6
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It's a war, man.
They started it.
Now it's VAE VICTIS time.
And BTW. They are not 'simple people'. They are solders. Good solders don't surrender.
Good soldiers they are. Know why? When they were ordered to not shoot during a ceasefire, they didn't. Russia doesn't have any of these good soldiers - they are unorganized idiots that don't have any honor nor any respect.

And this doesn't change the fact that you are a sick man.

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Old 08-20-08, 12:10 PM   #7
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It's a war, man.
They started it.
Now it's VAE VICTIS time.
And BTW. They are not 'simple people'. They are solders. Good solders don't surrender.
Has there been any evidence to back either side's claims on who started it? I think not.

It's one's word against the other's.

And as for the "Good soldiers don't surrender"-bit, have you been in a war? Have you experienced how it is to be in the frontlines, fearing and praying 24/7 that the next bullet doesnt bear your name?
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Good solder means - no matter what an enemy cannot take away a gun from a solder
who physically can defend himself.
Otherwise this solder is a coward.

I am happy that a US solder prefers his college grant over his military honor.
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Old 08-20-08, 12:17 PM   #9
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And as for the "Good soldiers don't surrender"-bit, have you been in a war? Have you experienced how it is to be in the frontlines, fearing and praying 24/7 that the next bullet doesnt bear your name?
That's why when Finns in 1944 got in pinch they immediately changed sides
and started shooting Germans in the back.
Finns just wanted to be alive with whoever is the strongest one.
Right?
Honor? Which honor?
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Quote:
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It's a war, man.
They started it.
Now it's VAE VICTIS time.

And BTW. They are not 'simple people'. They are solders.
Good solders don't surrender.
I guess, they've got bad US instructors who failed explain them that.
Good MARPAT camo though.
You must live in a world of dreams. Seriously..

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And BTW. They are not 'simple people'. They are solders.
Doesn't Russia has the draft still in place? If so, that would make any of the enlisted men 'simple people'.
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And as for the "Good soldiers don't surrender"-bit, have you been in a war? Have you experienced how it is to be in the frontlines, fearing and praying 24/7 that the next bullet doesnt bear your name?
That's why when Finns in 1944 got in pinch they immediately changed sides
and started shooting Germans in the back.
Finns just wanted to be alive with whoever is the strongest one.
Right?
Honor? Which honor?
I dont see how this has anything to do with what I asked from you. Have you been in a war, in the frontlines?

Personally, I think that nobody, who havent been in the frontlines, shouldnt make statement like you did. And that is my personal opinion.
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Good solder means - no matter what an enemy cannot take away a gun from a solder
who physically can defend himself.
Otherwise this solder is a coward.

I am happy that a US solder prefers his college grant over his military honor.
Did you actually got any kind of military experience, or are those thoughts of yours just pipe dreams of a disillusioned generation?

And nice to see, that you basically, with just a few sentences, all the brave souls that fought and were forced to surrender (because there was no way out) in the Great Patriotic War call cowardly and weak. Damn, your country (whichever it might be) must be really proud of you for your contribution.
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And BTW. They are not 'simple people'. They are solders.
Doesn't Russia has the draft still in place? If so, that would make any of the enlisted men 'simple people'.
As long as a person is being drafted and takes an oath
he ceased to be 'a simple person'.
He is a solder now, a GI - governmental issue.

Are you a governmental issue now? You're just a citizen.
Military units of simple people are called partizans, paramalitaries, vigilantes but not army units.

If a citizen betrays his country he faces criminal prosecution and a jail-term.
If the same done by a solder (a governmental issue) that solder faces a court-martial and then a firing-squad.
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I'll bet this guy has never served his country.
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And BTW. They are not 'simple people'. They are solders.
Doesn't Russia has the draft still in place? If so, that would make any of the enlisted men 'simple people'.
As long as a person is being drafted and takes an oath
he ceased to be 'a simple person'.
He is a solder now, a GI - governmental issue.

Are you a governmental issue now? You're just a citizen.
Military units of simple people are called partizans, paramalitaries, vigilantes but not army units.

If a citizen betrays his country he faces criminal prosecution and a jail-term.
If the same done by a solder (a governmental issue) that solder faces a court-martial and then a firing-squad.
I did my duty (Light Infantry and Combat Engineers) and was discharged over 10 years ago.

What service did you do for your country?
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