Sink time

yobert · 08-07-08, 08:51 AM

If i add realistic sink time in the difficulty setting, do it take even long time for the ship to sink then even if i use GWX 2,1 ?

Von Manteuffel · 08-07-08, 09:40 AM

Yup. It adds to the difficulty because it means you have to hang around longer to ensure that your target does actually go to the bottom. That makes you vulnerable to attack from escorts etc. You may have noticed that once you've hit a ship, your "detection meter" goes into the red and stays there while you're in the vicinity of the target - aka being a sitting-duck.

If you play safe and sail out of the area, there's a chance that you'll lose the renown for the sinking because you're over a certain distance away when she actually goes down.

Ping Panther · 08-07-08, 09:49 AM

Realistic sink time provides an enhanced physics quality to the compartment damages that may occur to a ship taking on damage and flooding.

More impatient Kaleuns that want to earn kills and get them scored may not care for a little/(or a lot) more delay to the ship sink rate, yet I figure this adds a true sense of realism that a u-boat captian would have to consider... once an attack is made:
1) Do you continue to expend ammo. into the stragglers to make sure that they are truly gone?
2) Do you extend your post-attack patrol by shadowing partial-damaged merchants that are being stubborn to go under and risk your boat to converging enemy naval alerts in the area?

I think the GWX system really provides a very sophisticated bouyancy/sinking model that makes this just one more great part of the challenges in SH3.

yobert · 08-07-08, 10:06 AM

Ok, thanks for the info.

meduza · 08-07-08, 10:14 AM

Sometimes the sinking time can be a bit too much realistic.

On my last patrol I watched a Medium cargo sink for 9 hours. I hit her with my last torpedo at 13.34, and she finaly went down at 22.40...

Jimbuna · 08-07-08, 10:20 AM

It is all down to the amount of historical accuracy and immersion the individual wants.

It is to be recommended to have the realistic sinking time enabled to better replicate the different sinking times it took for ships to sink in RL depending on size and cargo carried as well as weather conditions etc.

nirwana · 08-08-08, 03:23 AM

i really get p***ed

when the cargo crews manage to patch up the hull, get the fire under control and then slowly gain speed catching up with the convoy while being circled by an escort or 2. occasionally im watching it being flooded til the deck shadowing the convoy 24hrs game time until im able to give it a final blow.

Jimbuna · 08-08-08, 05:02 AM

Yeah, very incondiderate of them to make efforts/attempts at survival :hmm:

08-07-08, 08:51 AM	#1
yobert A-ganger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 77 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Sink time If i add realistic sink time in the difficulty setting, do it take even long time for the ship to sink then even if i use GWX 2,1 ?

08-07-08, 10:20 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It is all down to the amount of historical accuracy and immersion the individual wants. It is to be recommended to have the realistic sinking time enabled to better replicate the different sinking times it took for ships to sink in RL depending on size and cargo carried as well as weather conditions etc. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-08-08, 05:02 AM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Yeah, very incondiderate of them to make efforts/attempts at survival :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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08-07-08, 09:40 AM	#2
Von Manteuffel Commander Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 0	Yup. It adds to the difficulty because it means you have to hang around longer to ensure that your target does actually go to the bottom. That makes you vulnerable to attack from escorts etc. You may have noticed that once you've hit a ship, your "detection meter" goes into the red and stays there while you're in the vicinity of the target - aka being a sitting-duck. If you play safe and sail out of the area, there's a chance that you'll lose the renown for the sinking because you're over a certain distance away when she actually goes down.

08-07-08, 09:49 AM	#3
Ping Panther Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: the armpit of the Mid-Atlantic / Quadrant CA42 Posts: 262 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Realistic sink time provides an enhanced physics quality to the compartment damages that may occur to a ship taking on damage and flooding. More impatient Kaleuns that want to earn kills and get them scored may not care for a little/(or a lot) more delay to the ship sink rate, yet I figure this adds a true sense of realism that a u-boat captian would have to consider... once an attack is made: 1) Do you continue to expend ammo. into the stragglers to make sure that they are truly gone? 2) Do you extend your post-attack patrol by shadowing partial-damaged merchants that are being stubborn to go under and risk your boat to converging enemy naval alerts in the area? I think the GWX system really provides a very sophisticated bouyancy/sinking model that makes this just one more great part of the challenges in SH3.

08-07-08, 10:06 AM	#4
yobert A-ganger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 77 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Ok, thanks for the info.

08-07-08, 10:14 AM	#5
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Sometimes the sinking time can be a bit too much realistic. On my last patrol I watched a Medium cargo sink for 9 hours. I hit her with my last torpedo at 13.34, and she finaly went down at 22.40...

08-08-08, 03:23 AM	#7
nirwana Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 380 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	i really get p***ed when the cargo crews manage to patch up the hull, get the fire under control and then slowly gain speed catching up with the convoy while being circled by an escort or 2. occasionally im watching it being flooded til the deck shadowing the convoy 24hrs game time until im able to give it a final blow.