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Old 07-30-08, 10:24 AM   #1
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Default The Arctic holds 90 billion barrels of oil

Interesting report.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2008/3049/fs2008-3049.pdf

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Old 07-30-08, 12:10 PM   #2
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I knew that some years ago. :p

But heres the question, they only have a four month window before the weather closes in so is it worth it?

I suspect when your scraping the bottom of the barrel you got no choice, crap the greenies are going to have a fecking field day over this one.
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Old 07-30-08, 12:16 PM   #3
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All I want to know is how I can steal all of it before the Government \ Oil Companies do. :p
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All I want to know is how I can steal all of it before the Government \ Oil Companies do. :p
Buy the Arctic and put up a sign.......

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Old 07-30-08, 12:53 PM   #5
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Default Global warming revisited!

So now you know the real cause of global warming!
Burn oil
Raise the temperature
melt the ice cap
get more oil
with extras: no Arabs around! or on top!
conspiracy theory at its best!
or not!
:hmm:
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Old 07-30-08, 01:04 PM   #6
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So now you know the real cause of global warming!
Burn oil
Raise the temperature
melt the ice cap
get more oil
with extras: no Arabs around! or on top!
conspiracy theory at its best!
or not!
:hmm:
Yeah, the Arabs would be cooked off the Middle East too!

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Old 07-30-08, 02:41 PM   #7
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Oh wow more oil! Just like in the Gulf!

So when do prices fall and then comes the "Welllllll It will take some years to get online"

See um you are a little late. You see truckers need this stuff called diesel ya. And if prices explode again well ya you get the point as transportation is the center of the economy.
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Old 07-30-08, 03:55 PM   #8
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All this is good for those of us in the rail transport industry! For years truckers have sabotaged our price-gouging policies by providing goods deliveries at a marginally higher cost and with much more convenience. Thanks to the government-energy complex we can now screw our customers with no fear of competition. I would just like to say thank you to all the environmentalists who made this possible by limiting the supply of crude oil and driving up demand. I woud also like to thank them for promoting ethanol. The ridiculous increase in the need for tank-car ethanol transport has been a blessing for those of us who love to take your money in exchange for a little peace of mind that one is "saving" the earth. Fortunately, we can still look forward to destruction of the environement by nations that don't give a damn whilst simultaneously ruining our economy via "green" policies.

Please continue your pathetic and laughable attempts to reverse problems that may not exist. No matter how clever you think you are, there are people with a vested interest in actually genrerating income that will always be smarter than you.

Sincerely,

The same industry you thought you beat with government anti-trust measures almost a century ago.
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Well, it at least drilling for it will be easier once all the of Arctic ice has melted...
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Well, it at least drilling for it will be easier once all the of Arctic ice has melted...
Yes and the many tons of Methane released from the permafrost can be used to power the equipment when it isn't adding to global climate change!
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90 billion (barrel of oil)
divided by
86 million (barrel global oil consummation per day)
makes
1046 (days of global consummation)
divided by 365 (days per year)
makes
2.87 (years).

assuming that India, China, america and all the others all of a sudden will stop to increase their thirst for oil, and the middle classes around the globe all of a sudden will stop to increase their demand for comfort and wealth.

What said that editorial here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=140046 ?
It said:

"Republicans have become so obsessed with the notion that we can drill our way out of our current energy crisis that re-opening our coastal waters to offshore drilling has become their answer for every energy question.

Anyone who looks at the growth of middle classes around the world and their rising demands for natural resources, plus the dangers of climate change driven by our addiction to fossil fuels, can see that clean renewable energy — wind, solar, nuclear and stuff we haven’t yet invented — is going to be the next great global industry. It has to be if we are going to grow in a stable way.

Therefore, the country that most owns the clean power industry is going to most own the next great technology breakthrough — the E.T. revolution, the energy technology revolution — and create millions of jobs and thousands of new businesses, just like the I.T. revolution did.
Republicans, by mindlessly repeating their offshore-drilling mantra, focusing on a 19th-century fuel, remind me of someone back in 1980 arguing that we should be putting all our money into making more and cheaper IBM Selectric typewriters — and forget about these things called the “PC” and “the Internet.” It is a strategy for making America a second-rate power and economy."

One must not be any anti-american at all to see the common sense in that assessment.

Meanwhile in France, a car will launch for mass production early next year. It is driven by - pressured air, has a range of 100 km normally at a speed of 110 km/h max, and can increase the range by use of a small gas-driven compressor creating new pressured air while driving, and then gaining a top range of 800 km/h with one filling for the compressor (1.5 litres). Mass production starts next year, the vehicle is licensed for public traffic.

Made in France 21st century - not in America, 19th century style. Oil is not the future - it is the past.
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Old 07-30-08, 04:21 PM   #12
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I have serious doubts about this "Air Car" Tho I am trying to keep open minded about it. I have heard rumors about huge losses and large charge times equaling large power bill growth.


My bets are on Zenn and EEstor but we can only win if these two are competing against each other.
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Old 07-30-08, 04:27 PM   #13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skybird
90 billion (barrel of oil)
divided by
86 million (barrel global oil consummation per day)
makes
1046 (days of global consummation)
divided by 365 (days per year)
makes
2.87 (years).

assuming that India, China, america and all the others all of a sudden will stop to increase their thirst for oil, and the middle classes around the globe all of a sudden will stop to increase their demand for comfort and wealth.

What said that editorial here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=140046 ?
It said:

"Republicans have become so obsessed with the notion that we can drill our way out of our current energy crisis that re-opening our coastal waters to offshore drilling has become their answer for every energy question.

Anyone who looks at the growth of middle classes around the world and their rising demands for natural resources, plus the dangers of climate change driven by our addiction to fossil fuels, can see that clean renewable energy — wind, solar, nuclear and stuff we haven’t yet invented — is going to be the next great global industry. It has to be if we are going to grow in a stable way.

Therefore, the country that most owns the clean power industry is going to most own the next great technology breakthrough — the E.T. revolution, the energy technology revolution — and create millions of jobs and thousands of new businesses, just like the I.T. revolution did.
Republicans, by mindlessly repeating their offshore-drilling mantra, focusing on a 19th-century fuel, remind me of someone back in 1980 arguing that we should be putting all our money into making more and cheaper IBM Selectric typewriters — and forget about these things called the “PC” and “the Internet.” It is a strategy for making America a second-rate power and economy."

One must not be any anti-american at all to see the common sense in that assessment.

Meanwhile in France, a car will launch for mass production early next year. It is driven by - pressured air, has a range of 100 km normally at a speed of 110 km/h max, and can increase the range by use of a small gas-driven compressor creating new pressured air while driving, and then gaining a top range of 800 km/h with one filling for the compressor (1.5 litres). Mass production starts next year, the vehicle is licensed for public traffic.

Made in France 21st century - not in America, 19th century style. Oil is not the future - it is the past.
How is it that we cannot drill our way out of this energy crisis exactly? In America, we have it all at our fingertips. We have it all - more oil capability than in any other place on Earth - 300 years worth for us! So how can we not just start using some of our own resources to fix the problem exactly?

More smoke and mirrors from SB again.

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PS. All green energy is substandard at best, and pathtic in power generation at its worst. Nothing beats the good old hydrocarbon (besides nukes of course) - hence why we use it today. Nations that convert to this purely will get left behind.
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