Nuclear sub crashes

STEED · 05-23-08, 10:10 AM

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Nuclear sub crashes after 'tracing paper blunder'

LONDON (AFP) - A British nuclear submarine crashed into the seabed after tracing paper was used to help plot its course during a training exercise, obscuring vital symbols from student commanders, reports said Friday.

The hunter-killer sub HMS Trafalgar needed five million pounds' worth of repairs after the incident, which occurred off the coast of western Scotland.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080523/tod-britain-navy-submarine-offbeat-6058bda.html

This sort of thing makes us look like Betty Boop.

Letum · 05-23-08, 10:18 AM

/Does not get cultural referance.
/googles "Betty Boo".

This person?

STEED · 05-23-08, 10:29 AM

PeriscopeDepth · 05-23-08, 12:21 PM

Not really, such things happen. A US SSN having found both the bottom and an oil tanker the unexpected way recently.

PD

DeepIron · 05-23-08, 12:28 PM

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The vessel was safe, but extensive repairs were needed. In addition the ministry report noted that: "Nuclear submarines should only conduct training of this nature if the arrangements for navigational safety are infallible."

Huh? Actually I think the exercise was a complete success in this regards. In the event of an actual "incident" who knows how "infallable" nav aids are going to be? These guys need to know how to operate when the situation is less than optimum...

FIREWALL · 05-23-08, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

Not really, such things happen. A US SSN having found both the bottom and an oil tanker the unexpected way recently.

PD

I think awhile back we had a sub that ran into a mountain.

PeriscopeDepth · 05-23-08, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

Not really, such things happen. A US SSN having found both the bottom and an oil tanker the unexpected way recently.

PD

I think awhile back we had a sub that ran into a mountain.

Yup, moving quite fast as well. That's what I was referring to with "found the bottom".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_San..._with_Seamount

There is a comment to an article by a sailor who was on the boat on bubbleheads.blogspot.com and describes the incident, not going to dig through the whole blog now and find it though.

PD

bradclark1 · 05-23-08, 01:32 PM

I always thought tracing paper was transparent. Probably been using it for 20 years because they would go through so many charts training commanders. What it is the MFIC was slacking.

jpm1 · 05-23-08, 02:30 PM

it didn't finished like the Koursk that's rather quite nice

deamyont · 05-23-08, 03:40 PM

Takes 300 years to build a tradition

Linton · 05-23-08, 04:30 PM

The Board of Inquiry report:
http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/FB21A...strafalgar.pdf

Chart extracts:
http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/11837...enc_q6220a.pdf

You may need to go via the MOD website if they do not open properly.

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PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Not really, such things happen. A US SSN having found both the bottom and an oil tanker the unexpected way recently. PD

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jpm1 Captain Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 544 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	it didn't finished like the Koursk that's rather quite nice

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