So frustrated I could scream!

bfindlay · 04-30-08, 06:24 PM

Bought this game after playing SH3 for a year - loved that game man, and I have always been fascinated by the pacific theater - seemed like a great match. I would have been happy if they had just ported over SH3 with GATO boats and pacific targets into a new map area....instead I have a totally broken product.

First - I got a box with a disc only in it - no key layout, no manual.

I tried a campaign, and after lining up a shot - the torpedoes go nowhere! They 'launch', do not apppear on the map - and I don't get a video when at the target - they just go away. (using assisted targeting mode).

OK, after a few hours of reading and downloading patches and mods, I realize that I was running the native 1.0 version of the game - and was across the dateline. So - installed v1.4 (don't want U-boats - if I did, I would go back to SH3).

INstalled the Trigger Maru Overhauled mod, enabled it with JSGME.

Ran the game - no mod screen, can't tell if it is 'working' although JSGME shows it as enabled.

Tried a prebuilt mission - sub is on the surface. I go to radar - the on/off switch doesn't work. Nothing seems to work in this game!

How do I simply play the game as in SH3, rather than spending so much time tweaking, updating, modding etc - and it still does nothing! Sonar does nothing, Radar does nothing - I guess I could stooge around, and then watch as the torpedoes do nothing, but I have allready spent more time on this game trying to get it installed / setup than I have available to actually play it!

- very, very frustrated here.

Safe-Keeper · 04-30-08, 06:27 PM

Welcome aboard, findlay.

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- very, very frustrated here.

A sentiment you share with a lot of SH4 players. The game apparently didn't have the time to get finished. Only advice I can give you is look around the forums for help.

Fincuan · 04-30-08, 06:37 PM

Since the problem with torpdoes should have been solved by patch 1.4 I'll only adress these issues:

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Originally Posted by bfindlay

INstalled the Trigger Maru Overhauled mod, enabled it with JSGME.

Ran the game - no mod screen, can't tell if it is 'working' although JSGME shows it as enabled.

Make sure you've installed it correctly. If its working then there should be a different load screen, though I'm not 100% positive. One certain way to make sure it works is to click "Credits" in main menu. A poem should appear, and if not then something's wrong.

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Tried a prebuilt mission - sub is on the surface. I go to radar - the on/off switch doesn't work.

You probably don't have a radar in the first place. The radar station is accessible even though you don't have the actual device, and if there's no radar in your boat then it's hardly the game's fault that it doesn't work. Most of the things in the game actually do work, no need to get all hyped up over a few minor issues. Trust me, it has been much worse, just like SH3 in the beginning.

Welcome to Subsim!

Monica Lewinsky · 04-30-08, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bfindlay

First - I got a box with a disc only in it - no key layout, no manual.

What country you in? seems very unusual for the packaging you got. Even Canadians got better packaging of the game then you.

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Originally Posted by bfindlay

INstalled the Trigger Maru Overhauled mod, enabled it with JSGME.
Ran the game - no mod screen, can't tell if it is 'working' although JSGME shows it as enabled.
Tried a prebuilt mission - sub is on the surface. I go to radar - the on/off switch doesn't work. Nothing seems to work in this game!

Seems your 1.4 patch is not up to speed.
You are trying WAY TOO MUCH all at ONCE from the get go for a FIRST TIMER.

You are throwing so much stuff at once, no one can help you.
Change ONE THING at a time. Test it, play it. Does it work? do NOT move on to the next "thing" until the last "thing" works!

Get rid of all the MODS. Test your SHIV un-MOD'ed and see if it works with patch 1.4. Does it work?

Just don't charge in here expecting help when you are whipping around changing so much stuff all at once.

Ian_L · 04-30-08, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Monica Lewinsky

Even Canadians got better packaging of the game then you.

What is that supposed to mean?

No I know, I know... I'm one of those that got the really bad bilingual book and nothing else. It's just the way it was said was funny.

bfindlay: Hang in there, patch 1.4 and a few key mods will do marvel. From what you are writing, I would try to completely re-install the game fresh, then 1.4, then enable jsgme, then TMO...

Your radar thing sounds like 1.4 is not installed properly. Because the radar works for me even in the training missions after 1.4.

-Pv- · 04-30-08, 10:50 PM

Your manual and key chart are probably on the disk as PDF files. Try learning the game as pure patched 1.4 or 1.5, then start using mods to change the things you don't like. Many seem to indicate the un-modded game might be easier to play for a new player.

As mentioned, you are probably trying to use the surface radar before the war period in which it is installed. Regardless, you have air radar and it's on all the time. Take a look at your navigation map. Be sure to zoom in and out to get perspective and detail.

Even without the surface radar you can get a lot done. There are areas of the pacific where if you know where to look, when, there are a lot of targets.
-Pv-

Quillan · 05-01-08, 08:25 AM

The load screen for TMO is a black/white photograph of one of the submarines with the late war conning tower, and the phrase TRIGGER MARU OVERHAULED across it. If you don't see this screen, it's not properly installed. My guess is you did what I did once. I manually created a folder in the MODS directory named for the mod, then unzipped the mod into this folder. If I did this with TMO, what I'd have is a structure that went like this:

Code:

MODS -> Trigger Maru Overhauled -> Trigger Maru Overhauled -> Data ->....

If you enable this, instead of moving the files to where they are supposed to go, JGSME creates a separate TMO folder in the main directory, so nothing works. Check the file structure on the mods.

THE_MASK · 04-30-08, 08:08 PM

You will not recieve radar until its available . Grey Wolves are working on an atlantic campaign for SH4 so why not buy the addon .

Ducimus · 04-30-08, 08:15 PM

Trust me, if TM is enabled properly, you'll know it. Make sure its in its own subdirectory within the sh4/mods directory that JSGME creates.

UnderseaLcpl · 05-04-08, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfindlay

- very, very frustrated here.

It's frustrating.....frustrating.....frustrating....... it's frustraing......
Not trying to be a dick I just love that beerfest quote...........

04-30-08, 06:24 PM	#1
bfindlay Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So frustrated I could scream! Bought this game after playing SH3 for a year - loved that game man, and I have always been fascinated by the pacific theater - seemed like a great match. I would have been happy if they had just ported over SH3 with GATO boats and pacific targets into a new map area....instead I have a totally broken product. First - I got a box with a disc only in it - no key layout, no manual. I tried a campaign, and after lining up a shot - the torpedoes go nowhere! They 'launch', do not apppear on the map - and I don't get a video when at the target - they just go away. (using assisted targeting mode). OK, after a few hours of reading and downloading patches and mods, I realize that I was running the native 1.0 version of the game - and was across the dateline. So - installed v1.4 (don't want U-boats - if I did, I would go back to SH3). INstalled the Trigger Maru Overhauled mod, enabled it with JSGME. Ran the game - no mod screen, can't tell if it is 'working' although JSGME shows it as enabled. Tried a prebuilt mission - sub is on the surface. I go to radar - the on/off switch doesn't work. Nothing seems to work in this game! How do I simply play the game as in SH3, rather than spending so much time tweaking, updating, modding etc - and it still does nothing! Sonar does nothing, Radar does nothing - I guess I could stooge around, and then watch as the torpedoes do nothing, but I have allready spent more time on this game trying to get it installed / setup than I have available to actually play it! - very, very frustrated here.

05-01-08, 08:25 AM	#7
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The load screen for TMO is a black/white photograph of one of the submarines with the late war conning tower, and the phrase TRIGGER MARU OVERHAULED across it. If you don't see this screen, it's not properly installed. My guess is you did what I did once. I manually created a folder in the MODS directory named for the mod, then unzipped the mod into this folder. If I did this with TMO, what I'd have is a structure that went like this: Code: MODS -> Trigger Maru Overhauled -> Trigger Maru Overhauled -> Data ->.... If you enable this, instead of moving the files to where they are supposed to go, JGSME creates a separate TMO folder in the main directory, so nothing works. Check the file structure on the mods. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

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04-30-08, 10:50 PM	#6
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Your manual and key chart are probably on the disk as PDF files. Try learning the game as pure patched 1.4 or 1.5, then start using mods to change the things you don't like. Many seem to indicate the un-modded game might be easier to play for a new player. As mentioned, you are probably trying to use the surface radar before the war period in which it is installed. Regardless, you have air radar and it's on all the time. Take a look at your navigation map. Be sure to zoom in and out to get perspective and detail. Even without the surface radar you can get a lot done. There are areas of the pacific where if you know where to look, when, there are a lot of targets. -Pv-

04-30-08, 08:08 PM	#8
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	You will not recieve radar until its available . Grey Wolves are working on an atlantic campaign for SH4 so why not buy the addon .

04-30-08, 08:15 PM	#9
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Trust me, if TM is enabled properly, you'll know it. Make sure its in its own subdirectory within the sh4/mods directory that JSGME creates.