The UK's marriage rate

[SUBMAN1]

I've got to hand it to you UK'rs, proving me right yet again. Anyway, your liberal policies towards marriage and your creation of unions instead has finally collapsed your institution of marriage. You now have a marriage rate of a slightly over 20 per 1000 people! Wow! That is an impressive number! Not for how high it is, but for how low it is. We have to go back to 1850 (Queen Victoria's time) or earlier to even touch it since you need a much smaller population so that you can have old people and young people to offset it!

Basically, nice knowing you, since your marriage rate directly translates into birth rates - you are dying. Oh, excuse me, the people keeping up your marriage rates are the Muslims, who will also have your children, and eventually own your country in the not too distant future.

Smart liberal laws and PC attitude you've got there. It's getting you far in this world!

-S

[bradclark1]

Have you checked the birth rate? More couples are living together (gasp) or becoming single parents (double gasp) today than ever before. You might want to check US stats too as we are switching to that. I think it has little to do with calling a union a union (triple gasp). I'm just left gaspless.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I've got to hand it to you UK'rs, proving me right yet again. Anyway, your liberal policies towards marriage and your creation of unions instead has finally collapsed your institution of marriage. You now have a marriage rate of a slightly over 20 per 1000 people! Wow! That is an impressive number! Not for how high it is, but for how low it is. We have to go back to 1850 (Queen Victoria's time) or earlier to even touch it since you need a much smaller population so that you can have old people and young people to offset it!

Basically, nice knowing you, since your marriage rate directly translates into birth rates - you are dying. Oh, excuse me, the people keeping up your marriage rates are the Muslims, who will also have your children, and eventually own your country in the not too distant future.

Smart liberal laws and PC attitude you've got there. It's getting you far in this world!

-S

Well, considering how often the Yanks get divorced and remarried, its no wonder we're behind you.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Well, considering how often the Yanks get divorced and remarried, its no wonder we're behind you.

The US is holding at about 40, or double the UK for marriage rate and the divorce rate has drastically declined to 17 per 1000 couples.

The US can't hold a candle to what is happening in the UK.

-S

[kiwi_2005]

Marriage today is risky - Paul Mc Cartney comes to mind he marries that wrench who from day one her plan was to marry him for his money no other reason just greed. Few yrs later hello shes asking for some of his money! What gives her the right to claim for his millions when she had nothing to do with it she never helped him make his millions. Yes he should support his child but thats it. She walks out of court very rich. Okay unless you and your wife got the house/car bit of extra land etc together if you divorce then its fare to go half each of everything between yous. Otherwise in the situation likes McCartneys your partner shouldn't get a cent.
By law here if your partner is living with you for more than 3 yrs he/she can claim for half of everything even if he/she never put in a cent towards it. Thats crazy i would rather burn my home down than to give it away.

[Trex]

Mind you, one reason for the US marriage rate holding is perhaps the antiquated sort of law still on the books in some states, despite Lawrence v. Texas, making it a crime for two people to live together without a formal marriage.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Trex

Mind you, one reason for the US marriage rate holding is perhaps the antiquated sort of law still on the books in some states, despite Lawrence v. Texas, making it a crime for two people to live together without a formal marriage.

This law has never been used in recent memory except when looking for alimony.

-S

[jumpy]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I've got to hand it to you UK'rs, proving me right yet again. Anyway, your liberal policies towards marriage and your creation of unions instead has finally collapsed your institution of marriage. You now have a marriage rate of a slightly over 20 per 1000 people! Wow! That is an impressive number! Not for how high it is, but for how low it is. We have to go back to 1850 (Queen Victoria's time) or earlier to even touch it since you need a much smaller population so that you can have old people and young people to offset it!

Basically, nice knowing you, since your marriage rate directly translates into birth rates - you are dying. Oh, excuse me, the people keeping up your marriage rates are the Muslims, who will also have your children, and eventually own your country in the not too distant future.

Smart liberal laws and PC attitude you've got there. It's getting you far in this world!

-S

Yup marriage rates are low, and justly so - I'm not keen on the whole enterprise; apart from the cost there's also the fact that I want to keep all my stuff if I separate from my other half. The only people who are in a win win situation when it comes to marriage and divorce are solicitors.
Perhaps coming from a family background where my parents divorced, I have a certain scepticism for the whole institution of marriage.
But all of this doesn't mean the proletariat are not squeezing kids out left, right and centre, THEY ARE! I only have to walk into town or through any nearby housing estate to see young people with loads of kids.

I think it's a little blasé of you to engineer that into omg11!!1 'nice knowing you' etc seeing as there's more to it than that. In this respect I'll echo KP's words about divorce rates and add the whole litigation culture that began with the US 'PC - make the lawyers money' which is making itself more widespread here now too; where people aren't content until they have compensation for the most inane trivia. Thanks for exporting that to us... no really, we were in such dire need of PC, it's so much better and more efficient than good old fashioned common sense and decency we had before.
I could just as falsely say "See ya yankees! by the time all those swarthy moustachioed Mexican illegals are finished crossing your borders, you'll all be eating tacos' and chilli and calling everyone 'gringo'."

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

This law has never been used in recent memory except when looking for alimony.

BINGO! score 1 for the lawyers.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by jumpy

I think it's a little blasé of you to engineer that into omg11!!1 'nice knowing you' etc

I don't have to engineer anything - http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/poptrd0305.pdf

Notice how migration is being used as the reason your population won't decline. Why not go research who exactly is migrating? :p

BINGO! score 1 for the lawyers.

True.

As for your stuff - ever heard of a prenump? Its how you keep your stuff seperate from a mariage if you are that self centered.

-S

[3Jane]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I've got to hand it to you UK'rs, proving me right yet again. Anyway, your liberal policies towards marriage and your creation of unions instead has finally collapsed your institution of marriage. You now have a marriage rate of a slightly over 20 per 1000 people! Wow! That is an impressive number! Not for how high it is, but for how low it is. We have to go back to 1850 (Queen Victoria's time) or earlier to even touch it since you need a much smaller population so that you can have old people and young people to offset it!

Basically, nice knowing you, since your marriage rate directly translates into birth rates - you are dying. Oh, excuse me, the people keeping up your marriage rates are the Muslims, who will also have your children, and eventually own your country in the not too distant future.

Smart liberal laws and PC attitude you've got there. It's getting you far in this world!

-S

Too busy laughing to actually post a longer response to this drivel.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

The reason immigration is so high is because we dont have the same restrictions as America does. I'm not saying that's a good thing, but people regardless of nationality and ethnicity will flock to places that its easy to get into.

US Visas arent exactly the most warm of welcomes for someone who wants to come to the US either temporarily or permanently. Infact, there's a whole air of "We dont want you here, and you have no right to be".

Over here, its "Do you have legs?" "Yes" "Welcome to the UK, here's your passport and first months benefit. The NHS Hospital is just down the road, and we have a bed reserved for you"

[jumpy]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I don't have to engineer anything - http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/poptrd0305.pdf

Notice how migration is being used as the reason your population won't decline. Why not go research who exactly is migrating? :p

True.

As for your stuff - ever heard of a prenump? Its how you keep your stuff seperate from a mariage if you are that self centered.

-S

Well, there's no concealing the confrontational pitch of your words there. I don't agree with you, but that's ok.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by jumpy

Well, there's no concealing the confrontational pitch of your words there. I don't agree with you, but that's ok.

Don't take it the wrong way since I understand that no one likes hearing bad news about ones country. I'm pointing it out to you over there so that you can do something about it to fix the problem.

To not do anything is to keep things status quo, and eventually this will turn out to be disasterous for you.

-S

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I've got to hand it to you UK'rs, proving me right yet again. Anyway, your liberal policies towards marriage and your creation of unions instead has finally collapsed your institution of marriage. You now have a marriage rate of a slightly over 20 per 1000 people! Wow! That is an impressive number! Not for how high it is, but for how low it is. We have to go back to 1850 (Queen Victoria's time) or earlier to even touch it since you need a much smaller population so that you can have old people and young people to offset it!

Basically, nice knowing you, since your marriage rate directly translates into birth rates - you are dying. Oh, excuse me, the people keeping up your marriage rates are the Muslims, who will also have your children, and eventually own your country in the not too distant future.

Smart liberal laws and PC attitude you've got there. It's getting you far in this world!

-S

Non sequitur much?

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Don't take it the wrong way since I understand that no one likes hearing bad news about ones country. I'm pointing it out to you over there so that you can do something about it to fix the problem.

To not do anything is to keep things status quo, and eventually this will turn out to be disasterous for you.

-S

Do what about it, exactly? Last time I checked, marriage was a choice, not a requirement.