(REQ) Slower U-Boat Dive Times and more accurate handling

[DS]

Has anyone addressed the U-boat's handling (turn rate, dive/surface rates, etc) espcially the dive times? It seems my ankles are getting wet before I've even taken my hand off the diving alarm...

"Clear the bridge! Dive, Di...(glub, glub, glub)"

[Georg_Unterberg]

yes, please Modders make a quick hotfix to set the dive times for the IX-D2 more realistic.
Even aircraft are no threat anymore, unless they are *very* close when spotted.

also the file "dive sequence.wav" isn't played anymore - maybe because the audio was still playing while you were on 70m depth already

Originally Posted by DS

Has anyone addressed the U-boat's handling (turn rate, dive/surface rates, etc) espcially the dive times? It seems my ankles are getting wet before I've even taken my hand off the diving alarm...

"Clear the bridge! Dive, Di...(glub, glub, glub)"

[LukeFF]

It's something we're looking into for RFB. Does anyone have any sources that say what the dive times were for the Type IXs? (I already have data for the XXI/XVIII).

[Xantrokoles]

I recognized the same thing and so I opened the [uboat].sim file (found in Data/Submarine/[uboat])with skwas Silent 3ditor

then edit:
ManBT_flood_speed
(u find this in: 8:unit_submarine ->properties->ballast)
lower the value and save it

[Xantrokoles]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

It's something we're looking into for RFB. Does anyone have any sources that say what the dive times were for the Type IXs? (I already have data for the XXI/XVIII).

They said the crash dive time is: 35sec

http://www.alphawolf1941.de/typ_ix.html

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Xantrokoles

They said the crash dive time is: 35sec

http://www.alphawolf1941.de/typ_ix.html

Not for the IXD2. That page says it's 40 seconds.

[ATR-42]

Its been a while since i read iron coffins but he specifically discusses in several areas how hard they pushed to get the crash dive times down. This was also addressed in Thunder Below. If my memory serves me correctly i think the numbers that Capt. Werner cited were a little less than that of the US counter parts. Im on the road so i dont have the book handy but the Uboats dive time in that book was well under 25 seconds i think... i could be way off i have to look when i get home.

I felt like the crash dive times for the uboats were really fast but my hunch figured it was close to correct :hmm:

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by ATR-42

Its been a while since i read iron coffins but he specifically discusses in several areas how hard they pushed to get the crash dive times down. This was also addressed in Thunder Below. If my memory serves me correctly i think the numbers that Capt. Werner cited were a little less than that of the US counter parts. Im on the road so i dont have the book handy but the Uboats dive time in that book was well under 25 seconds i think... i could be way off i have to look when i get home.

Crash dive times for the VIIs were around that range, but the IXs were certainly slower than that. Seeing that number of 40 secs for the IXD2 sounds about right for a boat that big.

[ATR-42]

40 seconds leaves some time for a pucker factor! Like the fleet boats i would find myself thinking, 'come on already!'

[Xantrokoles]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Crash dive times for the VIIs were around that range, but the IXs were certainly slower than that. Seeing that number of 40 secs for the IXD2 sounds about right for a boat that big.

Dont't u think that a good crew could bring their sub in 30 seconds down?:hmm:

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Xantrokoles

Dont't u think that a good crew could bring their sub in 30 seconds down?:hmm:

Sure they could, but what matters more in things like this is an average value, not what the most experienced, veteran crew could accomplish.

[Xantrokoles]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Sure they could, but what matters more in things like this is an average value, not what the most experienced, veteran crew could accomplish.

Good good
Then 40 seconds instead of the 20 second in stock or whatever

[DS]

All the above seems consistent with my understanding of dive times. The IXD2 had the longest average dive time, and I believe was in the area of 40 seconds.

[swdw]

I'll be working on this for the 1.5 release of RFB and will post it as part of an update to the surface draft and dive rate mod.

THere are actually 2 numbers that I need.
Normal dive time
"emergency or crash" dive time.

Also need turn rate numbers and hopefully some acceleration numbers.

On a side note: If the AOTD has them, that would help as they could use whatever I do to the u-boats in their upcoming mod.

[Ducimus]

Personnaly, i think 47 seconds is accurate for a fast dive on a 9D2.