Dubb-Ya's after it again...

[DeepIron]

http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...19099420080312

"As we speak, Colombia is under assault from a terrorist network known as the FARC, which aims to overthrow Colombia's democracy and aims to impose a Marxist vision on the country," Bush told the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

"Hello? Earth to Dubb-Ya... FARC has been around for like ... 40+ years!"

What will it be this time? BMDs? Burritos of Mass Destruction?

[Ducimus]

resident George W. Bush said on Wednesday he intended to send a controversial free trade pact with Colombia to Congress soon for a vote and warned rejecting the pact would harm U.S. national security.

How, is anything in columbia have anything to do with national secruity? Unrestricted drug cartels? phhht.

A person can cry wolf only so many times. After awhile, you just stop believing anything that person says.

[DeepIron]

I think he's spoiling for a fight with Chavez.

[August]

Yeah Chavez and the rest of the reds in latin America should have every right to sponsor leftist guerilla movements in their neighborning countries. Is that what you two are saying?

[DeepIron]

No. I'm saying that once again, Dubb-Ya is pitching it hot and fast to Congress. "You guys need to pass this legislation just 'cause I say so"...
Suddenly, a "terrorist" group (before they were just a "leftist gueriila movement" as you point out) are threatening the stability in the region, yada, yada, yada. Colombia has been fighting them for years and if they hadn't made an excursion into Ecuador, would probably still be pursuing them off the average Americans radar...

What's next, more involvement with Spain to combat ETA? Shall we align with Turkey and take out the PKK?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by August

Yeah Chavez and the rest of the reds in latin America should have every right to sponsor leftist guerilla movements in their neighborning countries. Is that what you two are saying?

As someone who's been deployed to a few of em.... i dont give a rats ass what goes on in some 3rd world hell hole. Not one little bit. The people there? I dont care. Really, i dont. They can all rott under some dictatorship - not our problem.

At least, not until it hits my pocket book. I believe in blunt honesty and im being blunt honest right now. I seriously, DO NOT CARE. They're nation, their problem, not ours. So, Hey if were going to go kick ass so the price at the pump goes down - at least lets be honest about it as a nation instead of spouting a bunch of BS rehtoric so we feel warm and fuzzy. (and no, im not referring to Iraq, i dont know what that clustef**k is about anymore, i really don't).

[August]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

They're nation, their problem, not ours. So, Hey if were going to go kick ass so the price at the pump goes down - at least lets be honest about it as a nation instead of spouting a bunch of BS rehtoric so we feel warm and fuzzy. (and no, im not referring to Iraq, i dont know what that clustef**k is about anymore, i really don't).

If it were just "their nation" i'd agree but Venezuela and Ecuador are both sheltering that guerrilla force behind their borders. One that i might add also traffics in cocaine to fund their operations in Columbia so your mention of drug cartels is especially ironic.

[DeepIron]

One that i might add also traffics in cocaine to fund their operations in Columbia so your mention of drug cartels is especially ironic.

An who is the number one market for their cocaine?

[August]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

An who is the number one market for their cocaine?

Probably the USA. Do you have a point?

[Ducimus]

And how many years have they been smuggeling their poison accross our borders now? You know that old TV show "miami vice" as hollywood as it is, didnt find it's inspiration out of thin air. So i fail to see how anything changes in that regard now. The "war on drugs" has not, nor ever will be entirely won. Thats were stepped up border patrols, import inspections and coast guard comes in handy.

[Frau_Phillips]

Alright, you guys. You heard the president, we've got to start packing up and hauling our military to every country that's harbouring terrorists.

I think we ought to start in Great Britain. They've got the fastest rising Muslim population, including extremists. Then once we've swept Europe, (God knows France has some folks who aren't on our side) we can move on to all of Asia. Then once we've got Africa under control (shouldn't take much, they're all pretty sick anyway, not that we care) we can move on up through South America, and then Mexico. And let's not forget, that United States of America is pretty liberal with that "freedom of speech" thing, they've probably got a hefty number of dissenters lurking around. We probably ought to nuke the whole place to make sure.

Safely, I think the only place we can afford to skip is Antartica. Until we obtain intelligence, which we inevitably will, that there are some suicide bombing penguins, and then we'll have to occupy there too. Hell, I think there's some oil down there. Scratch that, Antartica is a threat to our national security too.

[DeepIron]

Originally Posted by August

Probably the USA. Do you have a point?

Ironic isn't it? The US is largest consumer of Columbian cocaine in the world. In a sense, US citizens make it possible for FARC to fund itself and operate.

Instead for sending huge amounts of US $$$ to Columbia, (undoubtably to line some corrupt officials pockets) why not spend it at home to improve border security and choke off the coke entering the US? The direct benefits are much greater to US citizens. Tighter border security means fewer drugs, fewer illegals and better screening for potential "terrorists".

[baggygreen]

Frankly, i think smuggling boats should be sunk on sight and smugglers aircraft downed into the ocean.

thats gotta start making an impact doesnt it?

[Sailor Steve]

Hey, FP, nice to hear from you again.

Excellent points, every one. There are people here who truly believe that the only way our country can be safe is if the take over every other one. It's no wonder the rest of the world doesn't trust us anymore.

Oh, nice sig, too.

[DeepIron]

Frankly, i think smuggling boats should be sunk on sight and smugglers aircraft downed into the ocean.

Careful BG, you'll have Enviromentalists and Greenpeace down upon us...